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Postby Matt Deckard » Fri May 27, 2005 10:19 am

Just saw this flick on TCM.

This is the quintessential bond film. Mystery, women, gadgets, villains, women.

Niven, O'Toole, Allen, Sellers, Welles

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Postby Chimay » Fri May 27, 2005 11:04 am

Great movie, and I love Peter Sellers.

On a similar note, I just found the DVD for one of my favorites, "The Party"

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Re: Casino Royale

Postby sean » Fri May 27, 2005 7:09 pm

Matt Deckard wrote:This is the quintessential bond film. Mystery, women, gadgets, villains, women.

The quintessential Bond film without the quintessential Bond?

You must be egging me on. Right?

"Casino Royale" is a spoof; it's not even the same genre. I think Osborne comments at the beginning of this one that the only thing in common between this and other Bond films are that they have titles of Ian Fleming novels, and characters named James Bond.

It is a fun movie though, and answers the question "Why does James Bond wear glasses?"

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Postby sky » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:33 pm

Saw the new one this morning, and here is my review:

The time period is modern day, but the story opens with Bond just earning his double "0"￾ status. Instead of the new James Bond, Daniel Craig is the new-born James Bond. He is a meaner and tougher Bond to be sure, but the rookie has a lot to learn about the spy game.

Likes: The first ten minutes - up through the credits. And that the villain weeps blood.
Dislikes: Everything after the first ten minutes. (Instead of baccarat, Bond plays a pedestrian game of Texas hold-em!)

If they had done a retro Bond prequel, instead of a Nuevo Bond sequel, I might have liked that better. Nah - who am I trying to kid - I would have scorned that too, just for not being as original as the original.

Not imitating Sean Connery as Bond is a good idea, but Bond imitating "The Transporter,"￾ as he did in "Casino Royale,"￾ is a really bad one. What is the spy world coming to when Bond imitates others instead of the other way around?

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Postby sean » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:40 pm

Well said, Sky!

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Postby nichols » Fri Nov 17, 2006 5:14 pm

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Postby sky » Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:05 am

Coming soon . . .

The Bond Babies join forces with the Avenger Babies in . . .

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Postby ChrisLAXEncounter » Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:38 am

Does he really say, "I don't care if it is shaken or stirred?"

I heard the rumor, but I can't believe it.

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Postby sky » Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:58 am

Are you sitting down, Chris?

Yes, that's true. Although earlier, at the card table, he orders a drink which I didn't hear well, but I assume was the original three part Gordon gin, one part vodka. And then, like the scene in "LA Story"￾ where everyone else wants the hippest coffee concoction, everyone else orders the same drink as Bond.

Also of note, there are few Q-like gadgets - maybe the closest thing to a gadget is a defibrillator in the car. Although I did notice this - this was the third film I've seen recently, where a cell phone is used to locate someone by observing them answering the call.

I wouldn't say that I hated the movie - it was entertaining enough - I just dislike the idea of dishonoring the original like this. Why not just create a new spy who doesn't give a shaving cream about how their martini is made.

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Postby Futura Girl » Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:14 pm

well i am glad i heard your review before going to see it then.

i had really really high hopes for the film - now i will lower them and won't be as disappointed.
is it a wait for video then?

is it as bad as the "invisible car" bond film.... so bad i have tried to erase the name of it from my memory...
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Postby sky » Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:56 pm

I don't know if you want to use me as your barometer, FG, but from I know of you online, I think you should pass on this one. Also, it's very long at 2 1/2 hours. It really does start off well, though, but not worth the cost of admission for the first ten minutes.

I would have preferred to see "Borat,"￾ but I'm waiting until both my sons are home for Thanksgiving because that's our kind of humor. (BTW, Ali G did a very funny James Bond spoof once. He delivers the signature line like this - "My name is James Bond"￾ and can't recover from it.)

I think you would really love "Nightmare Before Christmas"￾ in 3D, but I suspect it will be hard to find.

"Stranger than Fiction"￾ looks good. "The Departed"￾ is still around, and was very good if you like a bit of the ultra-violence - although I think it had a lot more than violence going for it, more so that "Goodfellas"￾ and "Casino." And I'm about to leave to see "Shut Up and Sing,"￾ which I normally wouldn't think of seeing, but my daughter is already home for the holidays and she is a Dixie Chicks fan.

What was the invisible car movie?

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Postby Futura Girl » Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:29 pm

i trust your opinion sky.
we rarely have time to go see movies, but were going to try to see one over the holiday weekend - along with the other hordes!

i'm not a big fan of violent movies, but i do like to see big screen blockbusters on the large screen and try to make it to the theater to see them in the proper environment. which is why i try to always see bond in the big screen.

the invisible car bond was driving around on some iceberg. it was all pure CGI. i can get that from any other lame action pic

i love bond - because no matter how outlandish the stunt were - they tended to be real (sometimes assisted with cg, but based in semi reality).... and quite possible in a 1 out of a million kind of way.
but with Die Another Day (i literally had to go and google it to remember),
surfing the melting iceberg - give me a break.

so i'll probably wait for the new CR to be on Spike network or something...
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Postby ChrisLAXEncounter » Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:25 am

This may put the quote in the best possible light (Which is still a long way from good):


Author Ian Fleming had always said that Bond was never a nice man. Grumpy, borderline alcoholic & chain-smoking womaniser were his words, and in Royale a bartender says to Bond, "Vodka Martini shaken not stirred?" to which Bond replies, "Does it look like I give a damn??"

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Postby sky » Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:23 am

Who shot Liberty Valance; was it Jimmy Stewart or John Wayne?

The legend of James Bond is Sean Connery for most of us. In our legend, he is a classy guy, who wins through guile and a little bit of luck. There's one sequence in the new "Casino Royale" where Craig is mistaken for a parking lot attendant at the One and Only resort in the Bahamas. (Well, I suppose Sean was mistaken for a runner by Jill St John in "Diamonds Are Forever."￾) Craig's Bond also professed a preference for married women. I don't think Sean ever did that - a girl friend of the villain maybe, but not the villain's wife.

Anyway, this is clearly a different Bond. Maybe more interesting would have been to make Craig Bond's son - via the Contessa di Vicenzo, aka Mrs Bond - the embryo was removed from here dead body by Blofeld. (Gross, but I'm just thinking outloud here.) He was raised by SPECTRE, but finds out the truth about his heritage and vows to avenge his mother's death by joining Her Majesty's Secret Service.

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Postby ChrisLAXEncounter » Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:31 am

sky wrote:Are you sitting down, Chris? -

Yes, that's true. Although earlier, at the card table, he orders a drink which I didn't hear well, but I assume was the original three part Gordon gin, one part vodka. And then, like the scene in "LA Story"￾ where everyone else wants the hippest coffee concoction, everyone else orders the same drink as Bond.

Also of note, there are few Q-like gadgets - maybe the closest thing to a gadget is a defibrillator in the car. Although I did notice this - this was the third film I've seen recently, where a cell phone is used to locate someone by observing them answering the call.

I wouldn't say that I hated the movie - it was entertaining enough - I just dislike the idea of dishonoring the original like this. Why not just create a new spy who doesn't give a shaving cream about how their martini is made.


If you will indulge me, I'd like to comment again after seeing the film.

In context, the line about martini does make sense.

The lack of Q and his gadgets is a glaring omission.
Bond also wears a different watch.

However, there is no extended product placement for BMW, and he no longer drinks Kamchata Vodka.

The Money Penny sequence while amusing, is not as good as the real deal.
Even the more recent Money Penny characters have been better.

The movie, and Bond, is a more gritty, realistic endeavor.]
There are no more 10 minute long fights with Jaws in the middle of the desert, although I always liked OddJob.

The darkness of the herione was interesting, and her character matched the strong, independent female characters of Maude Adams' Octopussy and Honor Blackman's Pussy Galore or Barbara Bach's Major Anya Amasova - although without the colorful name.

Daniel Craig is in the Sean Connery mold. Athletic, dresses up nicely in a tuxedo and is at home in the Bahamas. However, he is NOT for the faint of heart. This is not a good guy Roger Moore or a stupid Pierce Bronson who straightens his tie after driving a tank through a wall.

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Postby vintagegirl » Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:26 pm

Wasn't expecting much, but ended up being pleasantly surprised. It was an appropriate update on the character for today without watering it down too much for today's audiences. (Although, the herione's styling seemed a bit "disco" to me.) At least I felt like I'd gotten my money's worth in terms of entertainment, intrigue and action.

I think I'm happier with this film than if they had tried to do the retro/flashback thing considering there aren't many production or costume designers in Hollywood that are capable of doing the appropriate research. (There might be some in the UK, though.)

That vintage Aston Martin sure didn't spend much time on the screen, but then again, the owner probably wouldn't let them do more than they did with it.

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Postby sean » Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:36 pm

Fie!

Where's the class, vintagegirl; where's the class?

For example, this fake Bond is strapped to a chair, about to get his bell rung, and the best he can do is say "scratch my ... ," - well, you've seen it. You know what I mean. How does that scene compare to endangering the family jewels with a laser beam?

And what happened to his chest hair? What bird is going to make a nest in that tree without leaves?

Lowering your expectations is a slippery slope. I say fie on bald chests, fie on this film, and fie on all the false Bonds in the world.

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Postby sean » Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:06 am

I have a riddle for all you fans of the Daniel Craig as 007.

What do you get when you start with the quintessential Bond, and you remove all his charm, wit, style, acumen, cunning, and chest hair?

Give up?

You get a no talent ass clown. Someone call Michael Bolton and Pat Sajak; tell them that there's a new member in their club.

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Postby Futura Girl » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:22 pm

sean. you are THE ultimate bond.
no question.

but since you won't sign any more contracts, we have to settle for second best. i liked the movie. i liked craig as bond.
overall - have seen it twice and it lived up the second time around so a thumbs up.
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Postby sean » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:05 pm

Et tu, Futura Girl? Et tu?

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Postby sean » Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:08 am

Futura Girl wrote:overall - have seen it twice and it lived up the second time around so a thumbs up.

Twice ? !!!!!!!!!

Oh, the horror!

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Postby Futura Girl » Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:17 pm

sean - not to worry - i've seen all your bond flicks like ten times!
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Postby sean » Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:33 pm

I was pretty good back in the day, wasn't I? Do you remember when Jill St John said "I'm Plenty," and I said, "But of course you are"?

I suppose I can be magnificent and let little Jimmy Bond have his day in the sun. Best of luck to you Jimmy; I wish you all the success of George Lazenby.

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Postby sean » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:37 pm

Skyfall. This is my review.

On a scale of 1 to 4 stars, I give it 4 F's ... F as in ... well, let's just say fail-up.

First, in the opening sequence, Little Jimmy fails to catch the bad guy. His marksmanship, once again, is abysmal.

Second, he fails to stop an assassination.

Third, he fails to protect the hot Bond girl - after he promised her that he would!

And fourth - SPOILER ALERT - he fails to protect a ranking MI6 official in the climatic scene. (And yet he is somehow hailed at the end as a hero. ???)

Basically, this Bond is one big fail-up. It should have been called Skyfail. Bah. Humbug. Stay away from this stinker!

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Postby Futura Girl » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:05 pm

Thank you for that review, Sean. Now what brother Sky think of Skyfall?
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Postby sky » Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:37 am

I haven't seen it, FG. The title could be an eponym and I wouldn't want to spoil that illusion. I'm looking forward to the new Lincoln movie next week, though.

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Postby sean » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:42 pm

sky wrote:The title could be an eponym ...

Skyfall is the name of an estate in Scotland - part of the back-story to Little Jimmy Bond, which appears to be stolen from Bruce Wayne, where Batman = 007 and Alfred the Butler = Gandalf!

Still, not worth a shilling to see this Christmas turkey.

I really shouldn't say this ... but wait until December 2013, when once again I go rogue returning as 007 in Never Say Never Thrice!

That's top secret information - so please keep it very hush, hush.

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Postby Futura Girl » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:40 pm

Sky, as a fellow bond fan, you would really enjoy this movie on the big screen. the name is appropo considering what happens in the plot.

SPOILER ALERTS:
sean, of course it's no connery film, but the one thing they do is pay homage to the earlier films: a new male M, q is back, and miss monny penny is there.

of course my biggest complaint in most of the craig films is that bond does not get the girl in the end.
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