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New film: Who Killed the Electric Car?

Postby I_LUV_POWER!!!! » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:04 pm

I saw this movie in Pasadena earlier this week:

http://www.sonyclassics.com/whokilledth ... lash=false

I think it's very interesting, although the political aspects may alienate some. At the beginning, there's footage of electric cars circa the early 20th century and attempts to revive electric cars in the 1950s and '60s.

(BTW, Disneyland used to have an electric car on Main Street. It's listed in the back of Disneyland: The Nickel Tour and was around for quite a while. I personally don't remember which car it was.)

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Postby spinsLPs » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:44 am

I just saw this at the Arclight. Really well done in my opinion.

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Postby ChrisLAXEncounter » Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:57 pm

This movie is a must see to realize how we all could be driving zero emission cars right now.

It debunks the hydrogen fantasy and makes hybrids seem like an unnecessary compromise.

Electric cars are possibly the only solution to the global warming crisis.

Regarding the political issue, the Bush administration sued the California Air Resources Board to kill the electric car. That is not political- it is fact.

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Postby nichols » Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:40 am

Has anyone been following this story in Pasadena about the city refusing to give up it's hypercute hyperminis?
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Postby nichols » Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:50 am

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I think Pasadena switched over to the "Commingled" type of recycling program. Here's a piece about glass recycling in the commercial areas.
http://www.gpi.org/enews/recycling/20060614/news2.html

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Those waterless urinals are very popular - I understand it's a case of the plumbers trying to keep them out.

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The plumbers side:
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Postby mark71665 » Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:38 am

That looks like a film I'd like to see. I'm glad they're coming out with it! Maybe it'll get people to thinking.

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Postby MCMAdmirer » Sun May 20, 2007 7:15 am

Last night, I watched this movie.

I quite enjoyed learning about what happened with electric cars. I was barely a teenager, when I remember the GM EV1 were featured in some cars magazine. Initially, I thought they were cool because they were different in many ways. I never followed up with what happened with them. In fact, I forgot about the EV1s until I saw it in this movie.

This kind of movies is one of my favourite types of movies to watch, but I get discouraged about what is happening with the world. The same happened after watching "An Inconvenient Truth". Does anyone else feel this way?

Somehow the positive attitudes that both movies ended with wasn't enough to boost me or to inoculate me with positive attitudes.

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Postby I_LUV_POWER!!!! » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:00 pm

I finally watched the DVD last night (via Netflix). The special features include *additional dialog with the representative of the Petersen Automotive Museum (which comes close to becoming an arguement), *a featurette about the conspiracy to dismantle the electric streetcars across the U.S. in the 1940s, *the superiority of breaks in the EVs compared to dino-powered cars, *electric cars that are available now for people who can afford them and places that convert cars to run on electricity--at a price.

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Postby Futura Girl » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:08 pm

THE ELECTRIC CAR IS ALIVE AND WELL!!!

i need 100K right now...
okay - well, at least 50K to put the deposit down.

http://www.teslamotors.com

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Postby sky » Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:34 pm

I’m doing what I can – I’m all changed out to energy efficient bulbs, except for the dimmer bulbs and some candelabra based bulbs. Everyone should do at least that. I don’t drive very much anyway, but I need a bigger car to transport my bigger dog. I did buy my wife a Prius, though, and she really likes it.

Anyway, I’m posting to let you know that the movie will be on the Encore Drama channel at 3:00pm on July 4.

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Postby MD² » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:16 pm

Well, I'm waiting for the air powered car myself: http://www.lottaliving.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=9629

Although the electric Wrightspeed X1 is quite amazing: http://www.wrightspeed.com/x1.html
You absolutely HAVE to see this video: http://www.grumpy-c-bear.org/Car/200511 ... tspeed.wmv

Unfortunately I find the Tesla Roadster to be just a gadget that some might like to show around in Monaco & such...
Let's make exciting electric powered cars for everyone!

I'm glad I heard about this amazing documentary here & watched it recently on DVD.
It has amazing reviews: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/who_kil ... ctric_car/
And so doesthis documentary that I would also recommend to everyone: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/corporation/
I find these two documentary to be interconnected in many ways.

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Postby sky » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:47 pm

I watched the movie tonight, and it jogged my memory about a few things.

First was the commercial where all the appliances come out of their houses to meet the electric car. I remember that commercial very well, although I though it was earlier than 1996.

Second was that I remember my rationale for thinking that I wasn’t interested in the electric car, which was that they were only leasing them, and not selling them. I can understand why some people lease, but I would never do it because it’s a bad deal financially. And it turned out that this led to everyone’s discontent when they had to give up their electric cars because they did not own them.

Well, it’s discouraging over the conclusions as to why the car died, but I wouldn’t mourn its loss simply because newer technology is going to make it a moot point. I was particularly encouraged by the idea of a plug-in hybrid that would get 150 mpg!

There's no reason it still can't be a great big beautiful tomorrow, folks.

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Postby Izzy » Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:14 pm

"who killed the electric car" was depressing and made me really angry. I didnt even watch the al gore one because I can't bear it....
Anyways, we've changed out most of our bulbs, I use reusable bags, we recycle and we're trying to be as eco friendly as possible within our budget on our house remodeling.
Anyways, here's what my husband bought this week to commute the 15 miles to work on. Hes going to try to do it 3-4 days a week. It's really fun and you feel like youre playing on it rather than riding or excercising.
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He's gotten a lot of flak for it from his mountain bike buddies, but he could care less and he's helping in his own way....
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Postby MD² » Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:39 am

Always wanted to try one of those ( http://www.catrike.com/ )
Bit scared the cars wouldn't see me as you are riding so low.
This being said, I've used a car for 1½ years in the past 10 years of work. Otherwise its my bike

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(and that's a $350 bike! You really don't need to spend much to get a really good bike. I know, I used to race them :) )

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Postby Izzy » Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:26 am

[quote="MD²"]Always wanted to try one of those ( http://www.catrike.com/ )
Bit scared the cars wouldn't see me as you are riding so low.


Actually, I was worried about that too but he did a ton of research on it and cars seem to give you more room because 1. they are staring at you because your'e an oddity 2. its 3 wheeled and seems wider but really isnt much wider. 3. Theres a big orange flag on it.
Seems like people are so used to bikes that they don't respect your rights on the road or just don't even see you anymore. I used to commute on my bike and had so many jerky drivers that thought you were an idiot for being on a bike run up on me or try to cut me off.
anyway you look at it, I guess we all have to just be extra careful on our bikes (or trikes) because drivers are not looking out for us.
He also got a motorcycle and everyone said "its dangerous, ahhh!" so does this mean we all have to go out and buy a hummer so we feel safe? I just don't want to live that way. The more people that make the decision to bike or motorcycle, the more people will have to take notice and give them respect.

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Postby MD² » Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:16 am

Sad note here...

, who is famous for inventing the first practical flying machine powered by a human being, and who also collaborated with General Motors on the EV-1, passed away on August 28. He would have turned 83 tomorrow.

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Postby moderns-r-us » Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:39 am

I finally saw the movie last week!

Has anyone seen any promising news about the Tesla coming down in price? It seems that if they could get that thing under 45 k it would begin to be a no brainer.
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