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Mystery coffee shop

Postby nichols » Wed May 27, 2009 10:52 am

Any idea where this great little Johnny's Coffee Shop was located?
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Postby Synthetrix » Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:39 am

That is a very cool coffee shop. It reminds me a bit of some of the old Biff's restaurants.
I have been watching a lot of old Adam-12 episodes lately and they have some great views of late 60s/early 70s Los Angeles County. They show Biff's in a few episodes.
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Postby nichols » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:38 am

It reminded me of Biff's too. Alan Hess thought it might be a Russell Forester design (he did the earliest Jack in the Box prototype) so I sent it to a bunch of experts in San Diego and no luck. The photo is by Julius Shulman but he can't remember what the project was. ANYBODY KNOW?? How about Allen? Is he around? Allen....

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Postby 2Tone » Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:23 pm

That is really neat looking. Does anyone have more pictures?

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Maybe Huntington Park??

Postby retrocool » Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:40 pm

My dad told me there was a Johnnie's in Huntington Park. The same owner as Johnie's in Downey. He sold the H.P. location and moved it to Downey. Maybe this is it.
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Postby PaulKaplan » Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:56 am

I remember going to a Johnnies in Hawthorne or Torrance I think too many years ago- but this doesn't look familiar.
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Postby sort77 » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:53 pm

So I don't know if its the same one, but there is a Johnny's on the corner of Wilshire and Fairfax just a couple blocks from LACMA. Not sure if that is still Hollywood there or if it is LA city proper. Either way You cant eat there anymore, they just use if to film stuff now.

It looks really similar but I think the signage may be a bit different.

Here is a photo of the side found via google.
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Postby nichols » Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:48 am

THANKS TO ALL
for the leads. However, just to recap.
It's not Johnie's in Downey
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and it's not Johnie's at Wilshire and Fairfax
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A very similar angle of this same photo in black and white appears unidentified in Sam Hall Kaplan's "L.A. Lost and Found"
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Not H.P.

Postby retrocool » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:15 pm

I checked with my dad and he told me this is not the location in Huntington Park.
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Postby babyblue65bird » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:40 am

It looked a lot like what is now Rosie's BBQ in Chatsworth, but upon closer inspection I'm sure it's not:

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Postby nichols » Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:40 am

Wow! intriguing. It really does share some similarities with that place, doesn't it?

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Postby nichols » Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:52 am

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10220 Topanga Canyon Blvd., built 1964

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Postby nichols » Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:03 am

...and whatever it was became "Rob's" in 1968, so from 1964 - 1968 was this joint in Chatsworth Johnie's? The mystery deepens!
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Postby babyblue65bird » Fri Jul 03, 2009 12:19 pm

Comparing the two, Johnny's is a lot narrower than Rosie's, so it is possible that the flat roof section on the right is an addition. Still, the building next door to the left of Rosies is of about same vintage (and has a pretty nice folded arrow sign itself) and is different from the one in the picture of Johnny's. Now, there's another very similar building out in that end of the valley that currently houses a burger/taco place, and I can't remember if it's on DeSoto, Canoga, or Mason.
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Postby nichols » Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:27 pm

It's really close, but I don't think we have a match. This building was built in '64 (SUPER late for this sort of thing) and it became Roy's in '68, so if it was a match it only lasted for four years. Would they have torn out flagstone and done this patterned block along the base? Probably not.
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the glazing is all wrong, but could have been replaced
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The connection between the roof and the supports is really crude
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It DID have the remains of this very nice terrazzo floor, though
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Very interesting...

Postby KevinEP » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:46 pm

Did the terrazo floor end at the angled roof supports (and not extend into the presumed addition where cars are parked in the original photo)?

I love this kind of archaeology...

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Postby nichols » Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:54 am

The floor was almost entirely covered with 12x12 ceramic tiles, so I don't know. The biggest problem for me was that the supports in the old photo ended in a stone wall and the base of the building was flagstone and that Rosie's is patterned block. There's also a very nice pebbled insert in the sidewalk between the two. My idea is that if you're taking over a 4 year old place you don't go to all this trouble. It still feels kinda rural out there, I don't imagine anyone going to the effort to create a place like this. Those rock formations out there are incredible! Just last night I saw a clip from "Three Ages" on TV and I recognized Chatsworth. Terrific!

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Postby jmarellano » Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:43 pm

I discovered another coffee shop exactly like this today driving home from work (and thus causing me to register).

It is currently a mexican restaurant on Monterey Pass Road in Monterey Park.

It has the same roof angle, the same number of panels in the front. Unfortunately, this may not the same as the one in the picture. It doesnt have the rockwork, and the building in the back is not the same (its on a higher ridge).

There was an addition made to the backside, so the front windows and side windows do remain the same.

Here is a link to it....

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Postby Futura Girl » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:39 am

oh joy!

even if it's not johnnies 64 - let's still keep trying to figure out the original business in that great topanga bldg.
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Postby deanna b » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:28 am

While I'm reasonably certain it's not our mystery location, the angled front reminds me of the building at Victory and N Clybourn in Burbank (Google Map) that's now the Blue Ribbon Coin-op Laundry, and an identical building somewhere on Whittier (I think...) that's an Asian cafe of some sort.

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Postby nichols » Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:47 am

Does anybody here have "L.A. Lost and Found" by Sam Hall Kaplan? Could you post the black and white daytime version of this image? Maybe it offers more clues. I can't find my copy. THANKS

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Postby nichols » Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:54 am

I think the coin laundry in North Hollywood was a chain.. Feel like I've seen that inverted triangle signage before... doesn't feel right
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Yeah! Here in Duarte. I also don't think it's this sushi place at 1723 Huntington Drive either...
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