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LottaLiving.com • Scottish Rite Temple - Wilshire Blvd. Millard Sheets, 1961
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Scottish Rite Temple - Wilshire Blvd. Millard Sheets, 1961

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2002 5:50 pm
by nichols

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 9:13 am
by Nathan

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 7:08 pm
by Nathan

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:38 pm
by nichols
Scottish Rite loses license

The 1963 Scottish Rite temple, designed by Millard Sheets with sculpture by John Svenson and Albert Stewart was operating recently as a rental hall and a museum. The city has revoked the permit that allowed this and the building will likely close. The current operator has wrapped it in black material and hung black flags...

Opposition video: http://www.windsorsquare.org/ScottishRites.html
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 5:39 pm
by Tony
Oh, no!

What a spectacular building! One of the most opulent interiors that I have ever seen. Was in pretty good shape when I saw it, including the dark passages below.

What will happen to it?

Tony

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:06 am
by Lynxwiler

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:27 am
by nichols
A very influential neighborhood activist-type recently told me that he is floating the idea of conversion to apartments. He was very excited about how that solution would preserve the exterior. Of course, the spectacular 1963 interiors would go and there would likely be windows punched in those art-filled exterior walls....

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:42 am
by Velas
oh NO!!!! this is terrrrrrible.
I still hadn't fully explored the masonic museum.
Aren't there any members of the "brotherhood" who can do something about this??
Why did the city revoke this permit?

Sometimes I think Los Angeles is just truly awful. any tiny speck of special is squashed and obliterated like a small gnat or fly.

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:51 am
by Lynxwiler
Those interiors are stunning. What's going on with that neighborhood? Why is it specifically attacking that one building over all others? What do the neighbors have against it?

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:16 am
by nichols
Kevin Roderick weighs in on the matter:
http://www.laobserved.com/archive/2005/ ... cause.html
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Did you watch the video of cars driving (very slowly) on public streets and people eating on public medians? Oh no. The sky is falling. :-{

In my charmingly decrepit Silver Lake neighborhood there are always beer cans in the street and hot rods in the alley and ghetto birds chop-chop-chopping above every nite. OH! and now there is a hobo sleeping under my house! Do you see me complaining to Mayor Antonio?

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 11:23 am
by nichols
bbuuttt in the Windsor Square Assn's defense, the PARK MILE neighborhood has some special zoning that they worked in there long ago that forbids most Wilshire-like uses from that section of Wilshire Boulevard. It's so unnerving how Wilshire just stops for a little while there and picks up again... That's also why Perino's is no more. Scottish Rite was operating on a CONDITIONAL use permit and they didn't meet all the heavily enforced conditions. Like no noise..stuff like that. My neighborhood isn't so lucky - it's zoned ANYTHING GOES!

I hear you, Chris...

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:37 pm
by KevinEP
It is hard to compare the occasional problems of these residents to those of us in urban Los Angeles.

That being said, I do understand the criticisms. If there were strict guidelines that weren't being followed, that's a problem.

On the other side, when one buys a house that abuts a property on Wilshire Blvd, can one really expect to live the country life forever? After all, is there any specific plan to prevent a 100 story tower going up next in the Scottish Rite's place? Would the adjacent homeowners be okay with that?

I did have to laugh at the shot of the guy with the dog eating lunch on the parkway during the Soul Train awards. With the amount of time it's onscreen, it must have made the photographer more apoplectic than a lot of the other violations.

But, is it against the law for all of us to picnic on the parkway? As I understand it, parkways are publicly owned.

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:33 pm
by Lynxwiler
administration@windsorsquare.org

To the residents of the Windsor Square Association:

I applaud your votes toward the architectural preservation of your community. It is indeed beautiful and historic. However I am disgusted by your efforts to villain-ize any tenant or visitor to the Scottish Rite Temple on Wilshire Boulevard.

How often are your streets flooded with camera crews and movie trucks, blocking traffic while filling the neighborhood with noise and floodlights? Perhaps you accept those trivial hindrances since the profits from those film crews are going straight into your pockets. Yet when a neighbor does the same thing, you cry to the mayor for new laws to prohibit that neighbor from making a living? How incredibly selfish, unjustifiable, and might I say racist, are your motives.

Need I remind you that Windsor Square is not situated on a country lane? You chose to live half a block from Wilshire Boulevard (just as I did) and next door to the Scottish Rite Temple.

Leave the Scottish Rite Temple alone. I reprove your attempts to destroy the history of the building and its glorious architecture.

Sincerely,
Eric Lynxwiler

Scottish Rite operators lock out union, break contract.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 2:34 am
by wmldwilly

I often wondered

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:22 am
by modfan

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:50 am
by nichols
The residents of the greater Windsor Square area have been succesful in limiting almost all uses from their neighborhood.

There is something called the "Park Mile Specific Plan" that severely limits development along that stretch of Wilshire.

Here, look:
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Everything in pink (basically every parcel on both sides of Wilshire from Wilton to Highland) is in the zone and the following uses are

"EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED"

Business college, professional, scientific, or language
school or college, Hotels (including motels) and apartment hotels, Restaurants or prescription pharmacies, Counseling and referral facilities,
Child-care facilities, nursery schools, grammar schools, junior high schools, or high schools, Churches or other religious institutions, Any residential uses, Any signs, Automated vending machines (except pay telephones), including automated teller machines, Christmas Tree sales, Airports or aircraft landing fields, Cemeteries, Correctional institutions, Land reclamation projects, Research and development center for experimental or scientific investigation, Trailer parks and mobile home parks, Stores, shops, or other establishments where goods, wares
or merchandise are displayed, sold or serviced, Long-term health facilities, including convalescent homes or rest homes, homes for aged persons or special care homes, or nursing homes, Mortuaries and columbariums, Motion picture studios, Rescue missions, Hotels, motels, apartment hotels, or motor lodges, Heliports and helistops, Barber shops, Beauty shops, Book and magazine stores, new only, Cafe or coffee shops, Duplicating and copying businesses, Florist or flower shops, Medical or dental laboratories, Private museums or galleries, Restaurants or other eating and drinking places, Entertainment ticket offices, Tobacco shops...

http://www.lacity.org/PLN/complan/specp ... lepage.htm

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:01 am
by nichols
The issue with Scottish Rite is that he lost his conditional use permit and looks like he will have to close up shop. It's very likely that he had to turn away concerts, film shoots, etc. that he had booked. I hope he returns any fees that may have been prepaid.

By closing this place down, the entertainment industry loses a unique film location - community groups (outside of the Windsor Square Assn) lose a place to hold events - like graduations and music concerts, the architectural community loses a spectacular building by Millard Sheets, the operator loses a bunch of money and the likely-soon-to-be-fenced-and-forgotten temple becomes a hobo magnet once again. Is that such a better scenario than the guy eating a sandwich on the landscaped median?

Well then

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:58 pm
by modfan

The prohibition against schools...

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:02 pm
by KevinEP

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:03 pm
by Lynxwiler
Sounds like the neighborhood has their own plans for this building. Although the Hancock Park/Windsor Square Residential Associations wish to keep it under the radar, I think they're failing. I keep hearing the murmurs of gutting the property for residential conversion and knocking holes in the facade for windows and balconies.

That would would entail destroying the Millard Sheets interior murals, travertine marble, mosaics, chandeliers, and etc. Not to mention destroying the geometrically balanced exterior with enormous window and balcony holes.

Why can't those nosy neighbors leave Wilshire's historic structures alone! It's Wilshire fer cryenoutloud!

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:14 pm
by Velas
we need a windsor park mole to usurp them all!

that plan map is FAR OUT.

WEIRD.

I for one

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:47 am
by modfan
Would find a residential use kinda inappropriate. All those windows and balcony's fronting busy Wilshire Bl.?-Doesn't seem like much of a condo/apt selling point to me. What ever the ultimate fate is-somehow at least save the components of the building in particular the Millard Sheets artwork.

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:56 am
by Lynxwiler
If anyone out there has not seen the interiors, walk in someday and say hello. The museum dedicated to Scottish Rites ceremonies may be closed by now, but I think there is still a functioning office on the premises for the building's managers. Don't be duplicitous about it, but go in, introduce yourself, and see how far you can wander about. The grand lobby is stunning as are the Sheets murals and chandeliers. It's an inspiring space.

Or, do you guys just want to wear your fez'es???

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:15 pm
by losfeliz

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:06 pm
by ChrisLAXEncounter

Larchmont Chronicle; September 29, 2006

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:19 pm
by Lynxwiler
Future looks dim for the Scottish Rite. I still hear murmurs from neighbors who want to gut the temple interior for apartments... Jeez!

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SCOTTISH RITE RULING CURBS OCCUPANCY; 25-YEAR BATTLE ENDS

After months of delays and appeals, the Los Angeles Scottish Rite Center, 4357 Wilshire Blvd., received an order on Sept. 20 forbidding the leasee to lease the building for commercial use.

Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Robert O’Brien signed a judgment which revokes the building’s certificate of occupancy.

Windsor Square Association president Michael Genewick said, “at last the long-awaited enforcement of the zoning laws is taking place. Some neighbors have been enduring these violations for more than 25 years, so enforcement is long overdue.â€￾

Genewick praised efforts by the city, especially the city attorney’s office, for its efforts to “thwart the Scottish Rite tenant’s ceaseless attempts to delay the final judgment day.â€￾

Genewick added, “City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo and his lawyers in the Land Use Division are to be thanked for resisting the delaying tactics of the Scottish Rite and its lawyers.

“There are many allowable uses for this Park Mile property, and the surrounding communities hope the Scottish Rite will work with the city and other to use its property in one of the many allowable legal ways,â€￾ he added.

O’Brien signed a judgment in each of two Scottish Rite cases pending since 2004 and 2005.

In the first case, Los Angeles Scottish Rite Center LLC had challenged the conditions by the city to cease holding public events because the building was not being operated in compliance with the zoning restrictions.

Complaints about these zoning violations date back to the early 1980s, and the building’s owners previously were issued corrective conditions by the city in 1993.

Rather than comply in 1993, the owners closed the building and continued to conduct Scottish Rite activities in West Los Angeles. In 2002, the empty building was leased to the for-profit Scottish Rite Center entity, which rented out the building for commercial events in violation of the zoning law as well as the 1993 conditions.

These problems led to numerous city citations and extensive public hearings, followed by the imposition by the city of the revised conditions in April, 2004.

In the second case, the same Scottish Rite lessee challenged the city’s 2005 revocation action.

The city’s 2005 revocation order was issued, again after extensive public hearings, because the owners had failed to comply with the city’s 2004 corrective conditions and because the nuisance activities continued.

Enforcement of the 2005 revocation had been delayed for the past year while the lawsuits were pending.

The city’s Department of Building and Safety is expected to seek compliance with the city’s original revocation order, which means that no further activities can be undertaken within the building without a certificate of occupancy.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 11:51 am
by nichols
Can't believe it took this long, but the Scottish Rite is FOR SALE.
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LARCHMONT CHRONICLE
Owners put Scottish Rite building on the market

By Jane Gilman

The Scottish Rite Cathedral Association, owner of the block-long Masonic lodge building on Wilshire Blvd., is planning to sell the property.

List price on the four-story, 90,000 square foot building opened by the Masons in 1961 had not been determined as the Larchmont Chronicle went to press.

According to Esther Kim of the Coldwell Banker Wilshire office that is listing the property, there are some legal issues to be resolved before a sale will proceed.

The 47-year-old building, between Plymouth and Lucerne boulevards, is in the Park Mile Specific Plan area. The “CRâ€￾ (commercial, restricted) zoning in the Park Mile limits allowable uses to offices, apartments, nonprofit clubs or lodges, or a nonprofit museum or library.

Windsor Square Association vice president John Welborne said “Park Mile zoning does not allow restaurants, catering or banquet facilities, auditoriums, or retail.â€￾...

http://www.larchmontchronicle.com/Archi ... hiveID=715

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:11 am
by Lynxwiler
Good God, they're going to demo it for apartments! I can see it coming on the horizon.

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:40 am
by ChrisLAXEncounter

Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 9:53 pm
by nichols
See my October 13 post above.