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LottaLiving.com • Finding Case Study Houses in LA - Page 2
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:04 am
by robbhouston

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:37 am
by Tony

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:36 pm
by robbhouston
Finally picked up the Second Edition "Case Study Houses 1945-1962" by Esther McCoy. Awesome stuff. I've got a renewed inspiration. Maybe my patio (part of which faces the street) needs an obscure glass privacy wall...? :)

--Robb

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:07 pm
by SDR
Neat stuff, huh ? I like getting back closer to the source of these designs, with early photos and a writer who was there when it happened.

She answers a lot of questions, no ? Clearly an informed enthusiast !

Enjoy -- SDR

CSH #22

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:33 pm
by EdJ
Re: CSH #22

In the first photo by STLModern showing the south and east walls of the living room wing, has the east wall been covered with metal siding? Or am I seeing closed drapes through glass? If it is metal, does anyone know when it was done?
Great pics.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:10 pm
by SDR
Let's see. In the first photo (coming up the private drive) the north wall faces the street (right in photo), the east wall has windows (left in photo). These are the conventional designations (exterior elevations named for the direction that wall faces). The plan shows windows in bathroom and hall on the east elevation. The north and west (carport) walls are shown solid, and I assume the corrugated steel is original.

SDR

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 6:52 am
by EdJ
Ok. Got it now. The first two photos both show the same metal wall and the same drive.

In looking through a copy of "The Presence of the Case Study Houses", the recent photos there reveal a 'minor' change to this house. The low wall between the carport and the pool area has been replaced with a, almost to the underside of the deck, wall of decorative pierced concrete block, with a white door in it. Presumably this was done at some point to meet the legalities of fencing off the pool. Looks like Koenig's input would have been valuable in this regard, but apparently he wasn't consulted. My guess is that the photos in the book were taken around 2003 though they are not specifically dated. Anyone have any further info on this item.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:05 pm
by Mark A

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:59 am
by ch

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:35 am
by STLModern

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:29 am
by egads
Isn't Mrs. Stahl great? When the house was on the MAK tour, someone asked her about raising kids there with the steep cliff just over the edge of the pool. She said we just told them to stay away from the edge and they did!

Stahl House

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:30 am
by EdJ
STLModern-
Thanks for posting the pictures. They answer a lot of questions, as they show areas that aren't usually presented in books. They also show how 'on the edge' the living room really is. What a view!

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:30 am
by SDR
Wow.

Nice set of pics. Really gives the flavor of the drama, at this late date.

Is that the original kitchen, including ceiling ? I had no idea. . .

SDR

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:54 am
by egads

Stahl Changes

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:26 pm
by EdJ

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:34 pm
by SDR

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:39 pm
by EdJ
It is interesting, if not particularly surprising, to note that the Stahl house went through some changes during Koenig's design process. Probably the most major change involves the extent of the slab at the living room wing. Of course, as built, the slab pretty much stops at the window line. However, there is a perspective drawing in the "Pierre Koenig" book showing the slab extending beyond the window line on all 3 sides. Another drawing of this sort, showing guardrails as well as a positioning of the house further west, is at the USC website. Other pictures are there, including nice shots of the original and new kitchens.

The link is here:

Also of interest is the full size replica of Stahl that was built for the 1989/1990 "Blueprints for Modern Living: History and Legacy of the Case Study Houses" exhibition. A photo of this replica, again in the "Pierre Koenig" book clearly shows the omission of the fireplace. I can't imagine that Koenig wasn't consulted on this and can only conclude that upon 30 years of reflection he prefered the design sans fireplace.

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:54 pm
by SDR
I saw that show, and was unprepared for not one but two full-scale house replicas (the other being Ralph Rapson's poetic Case Study entry) -- and a piece of the Eames house frame at full scale, too. Quite a show.

I'd forgotten the fireplace issue. As the work was executed roughly, with painted construction-grade lumber standing in for steel, and of course no glazing, the experience was closer to visiting a holographic ghost rather than the real thing. The idea was no doubt to give a feel for substance and space, rather than an actual replica. But the absence of a fireplace, an elemental piece of the design (one would think), may be supported by your conjecture. . .

SDR

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:47 pm
by EdJ
Looks like my conjecture has been dealt a grievous blow. It would appear the fireplace was added at some point during the show. One photo with, one without.

Link here:

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:56 pm
by SDR
Hmm -- looks like some glazing there, as well. Guess they were still at it when I visited, too. Don't recall the date.

SDR