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Problems going from floor to wall toilet

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Postby scowsa » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:44 pm

Well they still make wall mounted toilets and you will typically see them in "higher-end" bath remodels, such as in Met Home.

What you don't fully explain is the reasons your plumbers are reluctant. For example, I assume it requires the movement off the waste pipe into the wall which would require cutting through the stud plate. Also, many require 6" studs for secure mounting.

Here is some discussion of such toilets
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Postby SDR » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:24 pm

The concerns scowsa cites are certainly the ones I would have. Some plumbing and other building elements are designed into the structure from the beginning.

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Postby egads » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:46 am

There's a big difference between installing a new wall mounted, tank in the wall toilet and putting in a vintage one. What is missing in this case is the flange and mounting that went into the wall in 1959. I would imagine that indeed those parts are no longer available. The missing parts probably got trashed with the whole house or the bin that left with a bath remodel. You could try contacting American Standard directly. Otherwise, start looking for a matching floor mounted model.

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Postby SDR » Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:06 pm

Well, you wouldn't have to do the inside, would you ? A two-tone job would look extra deluxe, hidden when seat and lid are down. But is this a good idea ? Does anybody powder coat over a ceramic surface ?

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Postby Chimay » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:08 pm

I realize that you're trying to restore a vintage wall-mounted toilet and not install a new one, so this is probably irrelevant for you. But I just wanted to chime in to say that we converted our toilets from floor mounted to wall mounted when we did the work on our house. We used new Duravit toilets, and they had a wall-mounted steel frame tank kit that is made for residential use. It wasn't that difficult to install for our otherwise incompetent plumber and carpenters, although it certainly did involve moving the drain holes and rebuilding the wall studs.
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Postby googieagog » Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:13 am

Recoloring of fixtures typically is done with an electrostatic sprayed enamel, rather than powder coat. Resprayed fixtures don't hold up well. They often stain and chip within a few years, leaving you with an unsightly and irrepairable mess.

You are better off searching the Web & local salvage yards for the correct, matching floor-mounted fixture. Many of the vintage colors were produced for decades -- as long as the color matches, you don't necessarily have to match the year/model of your sink. It helps your search to know the original color name. Ask to borrow a Bemis color chart from your local hardware store or plumbing supply, or bring in the tank lid or bolt caps, to determine the exact color.

As for the wall mount, if you have space to play with, ask your plumbers about building a dummy wall in front of the existing wall. That would hide the new waste line without cutting up existing structure.

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