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Home audio challenge with no attic/walls!

Postby Sienna » Fri May 30, 2008 7:56 am

I have been trying to figre out the best way to install a home audio system that can be heard throughout the house, or at least in the living room/kitchen area to start with. Since my house has no attic and close to no wall space this has proven to be a challenge. I ran some wiring from a small closet up to the soffit and placed speakers there and it works, but not too neat looking - the speakers are just plopped up there, thre is no where to nicely mounth them. This is what the living area looks like and imagine the speakers sitting up there on that soffit:

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Any ideas for a better setup would be appreciated! :cheers:

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Postby classicsat » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:25 pm

For wiring, you could use flat foil stuff. You just glue it to your plaster/drywall and skim over it with drywall compound, then prime and paint.
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Postby redneckmodern » Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:17 pm

while i know you said no wireless...

we're using a macmini as a home server which is connected to the den's LCD. the server supplies audio through itunes -- we currently have no CDs, just 2TB of hard discs. we're using apple's airport express base stations to stream music to various parts of the house -- on the receiving end is the airport and a pair of powered speakers (some of which sound pretty good these days... audioengine's A2s are in the office). this setup streams tunes to multiple locations through the house. the airport expresses even have a toslink output for connection to a receiver. through my laptop, i can remotely control the desktop of the mini-server (through an app called desktop transporter)

as for surround in the den, i ran speaker wires up and over before we sprayed the foam roof, so now input/outputs are in j-boxes in the wall.

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Postby Jerad » Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:33 am

I can't offer up more advice than finding a killer set of good looking speakers and cranking it up. I use the itunes/airport system and I love it.

But from someone who ran in wall wiring when he redid the electrical only to find that the last rear channel speaker wire was cut......let me tell you I don't think there is an MCM anywhere that poses an easy solution. I'm going for the make everything else lookawesome and hope the guest will be distracted and won't notice the ugly speakers.

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Postby Stephen » Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:20 am

Less than ideal....but interesting option nonetheless.

You might want to consider a pair of omnipolar speakers. They are far less-sensitive to room positioning and will sound great for music at parties, etc. Also, I think they are rather handsome and "sculptural" so they can be integrated into modern decor. Oh...price is only $300/each.

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You said no wireless

Postby oldskoolboarder » Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:03 pm

And I would agree, don't go the route of using wireless speakers that operate at 900 MHz. I work in the wireless business and NONE of those types of solutions work at all.

However, you should consider the suggestion of using Airport Expresses and Airtunes.

See http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/fea ... tunes.html.

This solution uses proven Wifi technology. I have an Eichler w/ the same problem. Running Airports (and an Airport Extreme Base Station) allows me to run music to other rooms. You can put the music to powered speakers or as an input to an audio/video receiver, to an alarm clock w/ input, etc. VERY good solution to your problem.

Another thing to look at if you also want to run network cables is to use Powerline Ethernet. I use these from Netgear (http://www.netgear.com/Products/Powerli ... pters.aspx) and I can run extend my ethernet network using the AC power lines in the house. Works great.

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Postby redneckmodern » Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:38 pm

and while i'm waiting for apple (or another 3rd party) to make powered speakers with an airport receiver built in (seems simple enough, no?), this is not a bad option:

http://audioengineusa.com/store/product ... 3187bd2ed7

here's a review of the wireless 802.11 senders: http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/17/lo ... ter-revie/

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Postby oldskoolboarder » Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:16 pm

You could use Sonos or Logitech, but you still need to provide your own speakers. The Sonos is great (I set it up for someone) but it can't play iTunes purchased files because of DRM.

http://www.sonos.com/products/?tref=ghome

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speak ... l|4156||hp

If you're a gadget freak (like me), you could use something like a Chumby. I use it in the bathroom and it streams from Internet radio (shoutcast) and can play off ipods.

www.chumby.com

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Postby Joe » Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:59 pm

right now, my entertainment system consists of the following:

26" samsung flat panel
14" iBook
Sony Playstation2
$50 pair of computer speakers from Circuit City
ipod
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movies through the playstation and ibook, music through the ipob and ibook

I would like to get some good wireless speakers, but I have read they don't exist yet :?

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Postby babyblue65bird » Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:19 pm

You could fit some Magneplanars on the beams - the MC1 would work. Unobtrusive, and with audiophile cachet to boot!

Or get a pair of the big Maggie floor standers - they look like MCM room dividers.
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Postby rockland » Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:35 am

Thanks Scowsa, for the link.

We have been removing miles of wires from the OPO's set-up.
A very 'GetSmart' set-up...
It was groovy but gaggles of wires everywhere.
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Postby fuegos100 » Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:13 pm

I too had a real problem getting my music from one side of the to the other. I wanted a whole house audio. I tried the wireless options and they really sucked. I too ended up w/ a mini mac as a server. it's hard wired to the media room where I have the magnepan spkrs. I use aiprot express to get it to the other end of the house where I have two other systems daisy chained.

so I can get the mini mac to play through one to four systems. and I was using my itouch (remote buddy) as a remote. I could turn off speakers, adjust volume, change selection from anywhere in the world (somewhere within in earshot is more practical). I hear the g3 iphone will have this feature as a free app download.

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Postby redneckmodern » Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:36 pm

tip: i'll often control the mac-mini's desktop through when i'm on my laptop in another room... is a good mac remote-desktop application for $30

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Postby dilettante » Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:44 pm

Here's a COMPLETELY wireless speaker.



It's, um..., a little pricey, though.


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