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paneling color/stain question

Postby reverb2000 » Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:41 am

we are experimenting with paneling in the living room. I used birch and luan with amber shellac and it looks very "country". I tried some reddish stain and it doesnt look good. Is there a specific color family or color that people are using in mcm houses to get the clean look? I realize color is a preference, but trying to at least get in the ballpark of the stuff I am seeing in Atomic Ranch mag

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Postby redneckmodern » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:10 pm

eichler homes used luan (philippine mahogany... sometimes called meranti) and were oiled (modern equivalent = watco danish oil/golden oak... maybe ith a touch of fruitwood and/or walnut), not varnished (or at least not shiney). i've used minwax's rub-on satin polyurethane (which is a blend of oils and poly) when recreating the doorjambs and other paneling in the house as a finish coating (before a final light coating of wax)... sometimes the MCM woods *do* have a country feel to them and only from overall design or finishing (satin vs. gloss, specifically) is there a real difference. for instance, our kitchen is ikea's nexus-yellow-brown... which if the doors were paneled, would look country.

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Postby Slim and Gabby » Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:38 pm

What else beside AR are you using as a guide?!?!?!?!? Can you get your hands on some old Sunset Magazines, Better Homes and Garden and Lady's Home Journal, or stuff of that ilk? The color of your walls and furniture will effect the way your wood appears, just as the clothes you wear makes your eyes and skin seem different colors. Those old mags and books have way above average color schemes for houses, because in that time, they wanted you to change everything on a three-year basis, the auto-industry refined that one for people, so everyone else was playing catch up. To sell paint and the rest of the stuff for changing your house, they had guys with slide rules and test tubes in giant labs figuring out what color went the best with other colors so you'd spend your money on their product.
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Postby reverb2000 » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:03 pm

we have some 50`s and 60`s architecure digest journals..but you cant see much detail other that its brown wood. I am going to experiment more tomorrow.

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Postby Joe » Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:56 pm

I used amber shellack on some new birch panels to match the 50 year-old patina of my birch kitchen cabinets. I think it worked great. no "country" feel here.

check out color photos of Neutra interiors and you'll see the birch patina

new birch boor with amber shallack

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I'll post some other pics tomorrow

neutra (Bond house restored with amber shallack to match old):
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For luan, take your cues from Eichlers. Search this board and the Eichler Network board for proper stain mix

http://www.eichlernetwork.com/spot_paneling.html

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Postby robbhouston » Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:32 am

Like Joe, we've had great success using amber shellac to blend new woodwork with existing....

Newly shellacked cabinet doors on an existing built-in...
http://0044f49.netsolhost.com/nashville ... ng6_lg.jpg

Newly shellacked kitchen doors/drawer-fronts, existing window trim over the sink...
http://0044f49.netsolhost.com/nashville ... en4_lg.jpg

Kinda dark but...newly shellacked valance & glass door along side existing window trim and woodwork...
http://0044f49.netsolhost.com/nashville ... ng5_lg.jpg

Don't have a shot on file, but also used amber shellac to finish a few interior hollow core luan veneered slab type doors. I was surprised how well they blended with the existing doors.

We used Bulls Eye brand amber shellac. Love the warm look. Really brings out the woodgrain. The luan almost has 3d quality.

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Postby reverb2000 » Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:20 am

ok let me keep working with the shellac...how many coats we talkin? I did 2 and gave up.

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http://www.nashvillemodern.com

A little website I created to showcase my home and other MCMs in and around the Nashville TN area.

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Postby cadman » Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:26 pm

I can sympathize with the shellac'ing frustration, and the mahogany quest too. For a non-critical project I found a few good sheets of 1/4" lauan with an interesting grain in the $10 "underlayment grade" pile at the box store. Save for those, the others were red and full of filler. When I tried to get my hands on some genuine appearance grade mahog I was quoted something in the ballpark of $1200 for a skid of 25 sheets IF they could be bothered to locate and arrange shipping.

Then a guy can turn around in the same store and buy some pretty authentic looking lauan door slabs for 20 bucks. Crazy.

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Postby reverb2000 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:55 am

the first obstacle I have overcome. I was using oak strips to experiment with..then found some birch I had and it looked ok. The prob is we have dark hardwoods already, so I am going to experiment with a lighter tone of the flooring. I will post pics shortly.
Also, I noticed alot of paneling as a very small piece of aluminum c-channel on the edges...I noticed its also used around mirrors (at the gym)..so going to try and find those today. That edging gives a finished look

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Postby jesgord » Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:24 am

Don't want to hijack this thread, but does anyone know anything about the blanket/bedspread in this photo? Reminds me of Girard's travel blankets for Braniff. I have also seem similar mid century Welsh check blankets like this one.

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Postby Joe » Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:27 pm

ha, reminds me of the Ikea rug my beagle like to roll on :wink:

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Postby Joe » Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:31 pm

I was shellacing my desk yesterday (baltic birch). reminded me of a few things...

- I use Zinzer Bullseye Amber Shellac

- if you're are doing large wall panels, I think it would be best to spray, rather than brush. go light. spraying specs on the can

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one more vote for Bullseye Amber shlaccccc

Postby Slim and Gabby » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:43 pm

I understand exactly what you are talking about when you say 'too country'. My last home was a 1959 cabin with every wall and ceiling in very good quality knotty pine. It would have been a shame to change it, but I get the oppression one can feel with a million dead country trees surrounding ya.

That said, I fell in love with the Amber shellac over time. Have a knotty pine kitchen with Slim, and recognized its value instantly. The glory of being able to modify or repair anything and have the patina blend in cannot be overstated. You have to give shellac at least a month to mellow away from the super shiny country look. On good wood, nothing beats natural bug guts. It will acquire a lovely patina that you are able to replicate.

That said, I am a big fan of Danish Oil for a softer look. Same qualities. Trust me-over time you will be very glad to be able to replicate the patina you create.

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Postby jesgord » Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:16 pm

I've been on the hunt for a simillar spread/blanket since I saw this one....something about it I love LOL. Have found some similar Welsh check blankets in my searches.

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The welsh blanket above actually bears quite a resemblance to Girard's blankets for Braniff.

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Postby reverb2000 » Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:51 pm

<a href="http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i66/donhug/?action=view&current=IMG_1406.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i66/donhug/IMG_1406.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
done. Mahogany with 4 coats shellac

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Postby Joe » Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:33 am

I would resist a glossy finish on paneling. I would aim for matte or dull. when I suggested the amber shellac, it was specifically for the light colored birch to daken it a little, giving it a look of an aged patina.

for mahogany, you'll find some finish options here: http://www.eichlernetwork.com/spot_colors.html


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