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Postby Joe » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:00 am

any suggestions on a brand for inexpensive 4-4.25" ceramic tiles with a pastel color range and white?

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Postby egads » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:31 am

Daltile?

http://www.daltile.com/series.cfm?serie ... pg=16&rm=4

They seem to have the "mint" color my original master bath still has.

The original basic seems to be called "liners"

http://www.daltile.com/series.cfm?serie ... pg=18&rm=4

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Postby Joe » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:35 am

man, that was so yesterday. this morning I am back to thinking 1 inch mosaic. anyone know the approx sqft cost for Nemo tiles like these?

http://www.nemotile.com/category/appian ... ani_mix/23

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Postby Joe » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:51 am

here's my list of materials at this point:

shower hardware:
http://www.moen.com/adler/chrome-posi-t ... R%3AL82691

sink faucet hardware:
http://www.chicagofaucetshoppe.com/Gerb ... -43431.htm

shower base options:
a. http://www.us.kohler.com/onlinecatalog/ ... -930880792

b. http://www.schluter.com/8_4_kerdi_showe ... erial.aspx

shower doors:
http://www.us.kohler.com/onlinecatalog/ ... ategory=12

replacement sink:
http://www.us.kohler.com/onlinecatalog/ ... -710787932

flooring:
http://www.armstrong.com/commflooringna ... m_id=47165

tile shower surround: undecided
options:
http://www.nemotile.com/category/appian ... ani_mix/23

http://www.daltile.com/series.cfm?serie ... pg=16&rm=4

http://www.modwallsblender.com/blender.html

counter laminate:
undecided if we can't salvage original.
options:
(skylark) http://www.newretrodining.com/retro_laminates2.htm
(summer heatwave) http://www.pionite.com/pionite/pages_pi ... motion.php

wall color: light blue

ceiling color: white

vanity: save original. paint either wall color or remove paint to natural wood

ceiling/wall fan: undecided

suggestions are much appreciated :)

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Postby egads » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:40 pm

I personally also like a more sleek plain shower valve. Like this Grohe:

http://www.groheamerica.com/en/bathroom ... &amount=15

However, a choice like this would bump up to $300.-500 depending.

All new shower/bath faucets are temp balanced now. Actual temp control is still a luxury add on.

I used a clear shower door from Home Depot I think with plain wire pull type handles. My suggestions: go as thick and heavy as you can. Mine are 1/4 thick and sound and feel cheap when you slide them. I could not find the thicker ones in a shower height. Now I wish I would have looked harder or ordered something. I always have a hand held shower. So keeping the water inside does not work with "open" showers. When I travel I wonder how folks ever rinse off by dancing under a single fixed shower head. I highly recommend a quality metal hose. I have used such a hose even when all I had was a waterpic. Grohe makes two quality levels, the better one with a lifetime guarantee. Completely worth it. I get them at a plumbing supply house.

While I like the idea of a separate pan. (I do have my original terrazzo one) it does complicate the kerdi install. You have to use their special caulk like product to seal between the upper system and the pre-made base. Using their pan kit makes the whole thing one waterproof unit. I certianly wouldn't bother for a white shower base. A cool terrazzo one? well ya. (I will go through it just to use an old abraded one)

I am curious how the shower is currently. Original and completely trashed or a bad 70's remodel?

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Postby egads » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:36 pm

With respect to two quality levels, I was talking about the flexible hand held shower hoses.
the Grohe shower valves all come as a rough in (the valve) and then the cover & handle separately. In the high end houses that kind of stuff is usually installed in, the plumber needs the valve way before the trim should be on site.

All the faucets are being changed because of lead rules taking effect. For us "regular folk" the Moen is considered the best. They even have a plain modern one:

http://www.moen.com/level/chrome-posi-t ... ER%3AT2702

This and Joe's choice are available without the shower head and arm if one wants a hand held with a hose.

http://www.moen.com/moen/chrome-handhel ... MER%3A3867

If one goes this route and are using chrome, the hand held does not have to be the same brand as the faucet. I just really must have a hand held and dislike the vinyl hoses. For a 5' shower the 60" hose in the better quality is what I have. (instead of the 4' hose most come with)
Most of the new shower heads & hand held units have spays that are made of pliable material that you just rub to clean the salt deposits off instead of having to soak them in vinegar.

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Postby Stephen » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:49 am

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Postby scowsa » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:11 am

We went with the minimal look of the Hansgrohe Axor Starck line in our new house


We inherited them in our last house -- a renovation by an architect -- and got to like them, particularly having the separate thermostatic control, so we rarely alter the temp.

A key design decision we made was to have all controls accessible before stepping into the shower spray area, so we have the water running, at the required temp, before stepping under it.

My wife also specified the Schluter system, which is under the floor tile, as both our showers are walk-in with just a slight step-down. The in-shower floor tile is the same as the bathroom floors (a 12 x 24 in tile), but cut into smaller sizes to avoid too large a smooth surface. She became quite passionate about Schluter after seeing a "Holmes on Holmes" show about poorly fitted showers.
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Postby scowsa » Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:34 pm

Thanks for the nice feedback. Some related comments and answers.

redneckmodern
Yes, I have also used the schluter aluminum profiles when redoing the bathroom in my daughter's house and they do look good.

egads
As to "when you get older, sometimes soaking the old bones is good" we gave a lot of thought to aging in this house, given it's our last house. We do have a tub and separate shower, with door, in the Master Bath but if space was a premium I would vote for a walk-in shower as a lot of age-related falls happen in bathtubs and I am guessing that falling awkwardly against a cast-iron tub edge exacerbates these. Our tub is dropped in inside a framed, Caeserstone clad box, so one can sit on the edges as part or entering/exiting.

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Both our walk-in showers have a 1&1/2 in step-down to contain water. For this door-less shower, limited water reaches the open end and users tend to dry themselves in that area before stepping out.


Lastly, my wife thought it would be useful to let folks know that Schulter now have the complete Schluter-KERDI-BOARD system

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Postby Joe » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:17 am

so much for not wanting to do much of the work... one of the bids came in at $300 per sq ft. I don't think so.

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Postby Stephen » Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:19 am

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Postby Stephen » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:58 am

As promised, here are some preliminary pictures of my neighbor's Cliff May bathroom reno.


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Postby blinkbeforebeauty » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:48 pm

Hey Stephen -
Any idea where the cabinets and drawer pulls came from in your neighbors house? The pulls are kind of george nelson-ish, I like them.

Joe - I feel your pain with bids coming in higher than expected recently. $300/ sq ft seems high, but a lot of other architect friends of mine have been renovating bathrooms lately as well, and it has been pretty consistent at 5-6k for a nicely done average bathroom renovation.

We have been doing some work at our house and almost every contractor I have spoken to seems to have a lot of work. Maybe it is just that good contractors will always have work regardless of the economics of the day. Probably especially true for renovation work...

I am hoping to do what you and Stephen are doing and GC mine as well. I think you do save a little money, but it is some time coordinating bids and schedules. I guess it depends if you have good subcontractors that you know will do a good job, and if you can be present at the house for a lot of the work.


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Postby factory50 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:50 pm

Hey that looks like my guest bathroom!

Those pulls are from R & B which I prefer after ordering the ones from Rejunvenation which were too large. I prefer smaller pulls/knobs so that it doesn't take away from the walnut vanity. Counters are Caesarstone 3/4 Blizzard color.

I still need to grout the back splash and install 1/4 mirror end to end.

It takes at least 7k starting to get a decent bathroom remodel. That would include Grohe fixtures, new tub, ann sacks tiles, vct flooring, toto toilet, Caesarstone counters, mirror, custom cabinets, etc....

I'll show pictures of my final remodel of bathroom 1 once it's completely finished unless Stephen beats me to it :wink:

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Postby Joe » Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:21 pm

I hired a contractor and the action starts in two weeks!

here are my tile pics:

Daltile 4-1/4 on the surround

90% white
5% key lime green
5% waterfall blue (matches existing Briggs toilet and sink)

2 inch unglazed on floor, white

http://daltileproducts.com/series.cfm?s ... ev=25&pg=5

I'll be restoring the original vanity, sink, and formica countertop. replacing sink faucet with this one, which is a little closer to period design:

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enclosure TBD

shower controls and head TBD

lighting: small progress white round pendent and original double coned aluminum sconce

flooring: extending black VCT into bathroom

paint: (I'll post some chips soon)

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Postby Joe » Tue May 24, 2011 9:04 pm

preparing to build the shower pan

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