Is it a bad idea to swap out front door to glass?

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Is it a bad idea to swap out front door to glass?

Postby Scott NC » Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:12 am

There's a couple cheap ones at Habitat Home
and am kind of tired of people not seeing a great view into the
home. As well as me seeing out. Also, would
it clash with the architectural side glass panel I have
which would be next to it?
The 2nd pic is the closest I could find to what the
style of door I saw. Minus the handles and color.

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Postby jakabedy » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:00 am

I have glass doors like that and I like them. But mine are adjacent to full window walls rather than brick, so maybe it makes more sense in my case. That being said, I don't have a problem with you wanting more light and more view into and out of your home. But I'm afraid there could be a clashing issue with the sidelight, as you mentioned.
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Postby egads » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:39 am

I'd change the sidelight glass as well. What the door you are looking at is called: a single lite french door. I have suggested such doors to many here over the years. I think formal front doors are over rated and completely moot on a modern house. Especially if one has an entrance hall area. I just like to see out as much as possible. I replaced the original mistlight glass in my "front doors" (saved the glass for neighbors who may need it) Of course my front door faces a private courtyard. Unless you are on a busy street with a shallow front yard and wish to be naked a lot, I say go for it!

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Postby Scott NC » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:08 am

I guess if I change the side glass, I wouldn't need a glass front door.
It's just not as cheap to go that route. Unless I just go single pane
as is the whole house. lol

That door was only $30.

I'm sure that single pane glass is ~$120

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Postby egads » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:29 am

Probably, it would have to be tempered. (although I bet the current one isn't)

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Postby classic form » Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:43 pm

Is there enough room there for double doors? If there is I'd be on the lookout for a set, you could take care of the door and the sidelight in one fell swoop.

Habitat is a good place to look but if there is a wrecking company in your town you might want to check there also...most will take anything they can sell before a demolition.

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Postby Joe » Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:55 pm

I wouldn't. It's a period detail that identifies your entry. the idea of a solid door is to create drama at the entry. it's special to the home. put in a glass door and it's just another glass door. drama lost. detail lost.

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Postby dani » Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:44 pm

If you remove it, I vote for clear glass next to the door and a solid color door :)
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Postby peterm » Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:27 pm

I think a photo of the interior side of the glass and door would be helpful. It must create an interesting dappled effect with the light. I wouldn't eliminate any original fabric of the house, especially when it is so unique...
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Postby johnnyapollo » Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:55 am

I went the other way and restored a solid door with textured side light (glass). The house previously had an inappropriate half-lit rail/stile/panel door with two narrow side lites (one each side). I continue to get complements on the new door treatment and it's only had a coat of primer on it for the last two years!

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Postby rockland » Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:13 am

I prefer clear side lights. For me it is a gray area of home ownership.
Some things are much more obvious and easy to change, like door color,
light fixtures, updating appliances, tile etc. Like a window with a fixed
curtain. It would drive me nuts.

Unless your are stewards to a historical home and making such a change
would affect the vision of the original design i see no reason to live with
a decision that was most likely the original owners choice. At least that is
the case in my neighborhood. Most are clear but others are various types
of pebbled or frosted and even solid panel. Privacy would be the only
reason to mask a lovely view. I prefer to see out the front. I can glance
that direction while making coffee. I would have missed so much the
past few years. The seasons changing on the maples, deer mating,
catching the neighbors loose little dog headed down the hill to a busy
road, etc. If i was close to the road and people stopped and stared
violating my privacy i would change it. Just don't think the decision should
be based on keeping it 'original'.

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Postby peterm » Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:23 am

Then I would carefully remove the glass, and think about how to use it as some sort of backlit art light piece in the house. Don't throw it away...

I guess this does depend on what the view to the front is. If it looks out to a street and cars, it would be better to keep the obscured, but if there is a fine view of some nature, maybe then...
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Postby dani » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:16 am

our door, with original clear glass side, I do like being able to see out. it also makes the foyer a lot brighter. I would have a hard time choosing between keeping the old or adding new clear glass, if I was in your shoes. I do like the idea of reusing the old, if you take it out.

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Postby Scott NC » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:05 pm

Now see how crisp and clean that looks.
You all have been a great help on this one!
I think I will go with a clear pc. I just looked
at the glass and It's flat clear on the inside pane and
the decorative side is on the outside pane. Has anyone ever
split these apart? I could then just use the left over
clear pc. Hell, that might be the original clear and someone
may have just slapped it right over it!
I live in an
established kid/mid 30's/elder neighborhood with
our road about 70 ft out front. Which is just a simple
neighborhood street. No real thru traffic. My yard sucks,
but it's what is inside that counts. I actually want ppl
to see inside this awesome house of ours. The front yard doesn't come
close to justifying what's inside. I honestly don't
think that my architectural "rain" was original.
It's double pane, unlike the rest of the entire house.
I think it used to be originally clear. If I can't come up with
some cool art/light design for the rain class, maybe the
company will take it as a core and knock off $80 or so.
But to have it hang from the cieling acting a room divider
would be sweet too. My architect's
son lives across the street. Hopefully he remembers.
Does the glass have to be double to be up to code?
Or can I opt for a single pane. Sure it depends on the county.
I think when I got a quote a few yrs ago it was like $100 more than single bringing the total install cost to $260 or something.
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Postby peterm » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:10 pm

If that glass is not original, go ahead for clarity's sake!
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Postby dani » Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:38 pm

We had a glass panel on the aluminum sliding door replaced. It was safety glass, thermal... double pane. i think it was $600ish? but it was labor intense. A smaller window was $200 for the same glass.

Your foyer is sweet, I can see why you would want people to see in :)

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Postby egads » Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:54 pm

I think I'd work on the yard and entry first. The plastic Greek pots for instance must go. I know that some of you live in places that are not as plant friendly as I do, but really folks, step up your game. When one lives in an indoor/outdoor MCM, the outside is as important as the inside. It's the whole point!

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Postby egads » Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:49 pm

Well, I do know something about being poor. Half of my yard is stuff I got out of dumpsters. Besides referencing the your plastic pots specifically, I was also thinking about a lot of other photos I see around here. One plant in the middle of a gravel is not landscaping unless you are in Palm Springs or a trailer park perhaps. I'm really just trying to encourage those studying old magazines to look at the landscapes as well. Many people say: "well I just kill everything" as an excuse. Well sure some stuff dies. I have had stuff die. It's one of the things you can kill without getting in trouble! Having a landscape is a lot like cooking, there are no mistakes, only things you would do different next time. And unlike a modern interior where less is more, outside more is more. Once plants fill in densely, they crowd out weeds making less work.

Anyway back on topic, a glass (and mirror) cleaning tip: if you use a razor blade, always use it on a wet surface (like Windex) and NEVER turn the blade over. Use one side of it only. Microscopically, the edge turns over slightly as you use it. If you flip it over it will scratch.

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Postby Scott NC » Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:08 pm

Well I split em. Couldn't keep the architectural
glass in tact, so it's
broken in many pcs.
My pics are terrible, but wow what an
improvement and a great site at night.
I keep thinking there's nothing there.
Now an incentive to clean up the ugly
neglected porch.


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