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Cliff May Neighborhood in Los Angeles?

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:28 am
by sparklegem
Is there an accessible Cliff May neighborhood in the LA area? My mom will be visiting and she is fan of Cliff May. I would love to take her on a drive by or walking tour of some terrific Cliff Mays.

Thank you!!
Gemma

P.S. Long Beach is too far for her to travel :(

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:09 pm
by egads
How about his neighborhood of custom homes called Riviera Ranch in Sullivan Canyon? That is off Sunset just beyond Brentwood (and Crestwood Hills)
It's right were Sunset makes a hairpin turn by Paul Revere Elementary. If you want, you can PM me an email and I can scan the pages I got when going on a tour a few years ago. There's a map with all the houses he did there. Chris Choate's house is also there (he was May's partner on the prefabs)

Thank You!!!

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:09 pm
by sparklegem
Thank you so much Egads!! I pm'd you and I would love to see the information on the Riviera Ranches!

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:46 pm
by egads
I'll look for your email address in a PM message. The stuff I have is from a tour organized by the friends of the gamble House as part of their Sidney D. Gamble lecture series. Daniel Gregory, who wrote the big Cliff May book gave the lecture, called "California in a Container" The material is copyrighted and while I am comfortable providing to you, it would not be OK to post it here.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:06 pm
by Joe
define LA area. there are many in greater SoCal

LA!!

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:35 pm
by sparklegem
Any and all!

Thank you!!

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:14 pm
by egads
Joe, do you know of any in LA or Ventura County? I guess the row of them on Wright in Pomona qualifies. But most so cal ones (besides my large Long beach tract) are in Orange & Sand Diego county. In Orange county there Stephen's group In Tustin (divided into two close by areas), a small group behind Disneyland off of Ball Road. A few in Costa Mesa south of Placentia & west of 19th (behind Wahoo's fish tacos) There was a listing Stephen posted awhile ago from some in Garden Grove. From old ads we know there are more in Anaheim & probably GG. But a lot of those places are "altered beyond recognition" I know from egregious examples in my own neighborhood that if you change out the windows and stucco over them, they look like any tract house. There are one offs here and there. May would sell you a prefab house to put on your lot. There's one northeast of the Cerritos shopping center. My friend noticed one in Pico Rivera.

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:06 pm
by Perks
I know there's a cluster of them in Lancaster. I did a quick survey of them a couple years back and they're generally not in the greatest of shape. Long Beach or Pomona are probably just as easy to get to.

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:46 am
by home_boy
Here's an ad I found a few years ago that shows the location of a number of Cliff May neighborhoods in the L.A. area.
The area shown as Pomona is now Montclair. The Pomona Cliff Mays on Wright Street aren't shown on this ad.

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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:02 am
by scowsa
sparklegem, you did not say when your mother was in town, so a reminder to you and other Cliff May groupies

Carefree California: Cliff May and the Romance of the Ranch
January 2012- June 2012
University Art Museum at UC Santa Barbara



Their Architecture & Design Collection (ADC) "contains 110 collections and includes more than 850,000 drawings, 200,000 photographs and negatives, 1300 linear feet of manuscript material" and is open to researchers. I recently met their curator at an LA event.

"Holdings include the work of pioneering modernists active in California before World War II such as Irving J. Gill (1870-1936), Rudolph M. Schindler (1887-1953), Kem Weber (1889-1963), and J. R. Davidson (1889-1977).

Much of the ADC documents California’s "second generation" of modernists, active between 1945 and 1980. Designs range from Cliff May’s (1908-1998) hacienda-inspired ranch houses, prefabricated dwellings by Gregory Ain (1908-1988), and innovative Case Study houses by Thornton Abell (1906-1984), Edward Killingsworth (1911-2004), and Whitney R. Smith (1911-2002), to environmentally responsive school buildings by Maynard Lyndon (1907-1999) as well as futuristic structures by Albert Frey (1903-1998) and Paul Lászlò (1900-1993)."

Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:39 pm
by Perks
Thanks for linking that ad, Home_Boy...I was trying to find it the other day without any luck.

BTW: Don't go looking around anywhere near the North Hollywood, Encino, or Azusa addresses...Any signs of Cliff May houses there are long gone.

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:35 am
by egads
I think some of the locations where model homes and not actual subdivisions.

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:51 pm
by Perks
Indeed. Some of them seem, based on what's there now, to have been intended as temporary structures (perhaps similar to the one built on the roof of the Sloane furniture building in Beverly Hills). I'd guess that to be the case for the Azusa and North Hollywood addresses. Not sure about Encino; there's an enormous McMansion there now. The original San Clemente model might still be standing; there seem to be a small number (maybe 3 or 4) Cliff May homes within a one-block area of the intersection mentioned in the ad.

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:43 pm
by Tikimama
Thanks for this info! Anyone have any more on Cliff Mays in Montclair?

Cliff Mays in Montclair

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:24 pm
by modfan

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:33 pm
by home_boy
I drive by the Montclair Cliff Mays occasionally just to see if anyone is fixing them up. I'd say there are about 18 or 20 of them in the neighborhood. Most of them have been remuddled, maybe 2 or 3 are in near to original condition. It doesn't look like any of them have been restored. It's a quiet street, near a hospital and a large Westfield shopping center. Although most people would consider Montclair a better location, I think the Pomona Cliff May tract has a better look and feel, but then, that's where i live.

There's one

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:18 am
by modfan
Cliff May on American Ave. in Claremont-used to be on my newspaper route, the owner was a professor of mine at Cal Poly and his wife was Claremont realtor Jill McAllister, I think they divorced/moved away since, so I dunno what condition it is now.