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Paint/yard issues...need your help

Postby Scott NC » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:31 pm

Wise idea to paint the brick? My house isn't as maintained as it used to be, mainly b/c i don't reside there right now. But the more I look at it, the gloomier it appears and I always feel it has something to do with the brick. If it were brighter, like a gray, at least the redwood beams and posts would "pop" more. Or will I regret covering this brick? I need to bring this into more the 21st century.

The landscaping front yard I am going to have it wiped clean and flat and change it to a palm springs style. Everythings dead up front including grass. This is an old picture and this looks green compared to what it is now.

Anyhow, much input would be appreciated, especially some photoshop on colors with the house.

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Postby robbhouston » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:06 pm

Hello,

I would definitely, without a doubt, NOT paint the brick. IMO, it looks nicely "period" right now. Painting the brick gray, if you'll forgive this, would be one of those things someone else would be trying to undo one day.

The house is very attractive with it's current color scheme (again, IMO). However if you feel the need, you could experiment with alternate colors for the beams, soffits, etc & the panels beneath the windows. And I agree, a fresh take on landscaping might really make it lively. But, please don't paint the brick.

Good luck with whatever you plan/do.

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Postby scowsa » Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:03 pm

I am with Robb on this. I would start with the landscaping and select plants, such as flaxes that add color pops.

Then decide if you want to pick up those colors elsewhere, such the panels beneath the windows. If need be, the panels can easily be repainted as you experiment.

Also, the street # element offers another chance to add color.
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Postby egads » Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:31 pm

Paint the brick? Absolutely not! For one thing, to do it right would require at least two products and a through cleaning. And once painted, would require constant cleaning. If moisture gets behind the apint it will peel. Leave sleeping dogs lie. If anything I'd experiment with changing the white panels. I bet they are already painted, painting them would be easy and reversible. Perhaps the part that seems so "dated" to you is the painted wood. It is a little reddish brown for my tastes. I might be inclined to pick up the charcoal of the brick instead of the "match" of the red-brown. A professional colorist, or an artist you might know can really help you think out of the box in terms of color. "coordinate, don't match" is something I learned on Queer Eye.

And remember this: it is what it is. Trying to make it into something it's not will rarely be successful. Especially on a tight budget. That includes the landscaping. Think locally. Think native. Spreading a bunch of rock around to make it look "Palm Springs" might make it look like a trailer park.

Are you estranged or working out of town? I hope it's a job cause I think I remember how much you needed/wanted one.

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Postby redneckmodern » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:39 pm

^ what they said.

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Postby egads » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:28 pm

Well I did say might. My real point is, just because you like something does not mean it will work with what you have. Or is really appropriate where you are. Landscaping is about climate and design.

The Palm Springs photo reminds me of Mon Oncle:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050706/

I'm sure it's what they had in mind. I do love as well. But easy care it's not.

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Postby robbhouston » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:41 am

Scott and/or Amber (whoever's posting)...

Just to get the creative juices flowing for screening combined with landscaping to add dimension, color contrast, etc.. Plus, I'm sitting in a hotel room killing time...

http://0044f49.netsolhost.com/nashville ... creen1.jpg

http://0044f49.netsolhost.com/nashville ... creen2.jpg

http://0044f49.netsolhost.com/nashville ... creen3.jpg

Sorry about the typo on Obscure Glass, but I didn't feel like re-exporting, uploading, etc. You could substitute more vertical 2x4s for the obscure glass to save on $.

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Postby clarksdaleplace » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:32 pm

Do not paint the brick - you will regret it.
I am originally from NC and spent a lot of time at the coast so I know you won't be able to get a lush green yard. I might even think about taking out that tree and starting with a blank slate. Being at the coast I think the Palm Springs aesthetic might work quite well - desert/coastal having interesting similarities in my book.
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Postby Scott NC » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:34 pm

Getting closer with ideas....thx robb and all;)







rusted steel for retaining wall. Probably expensive
unless someone's tossing it.


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Postby Scott NC » Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:07 pm

Hi Robb,
I hate asking this, but can you take your 3 sketches and
create horizontal slats. Or architecturally, is this wrong to
put more horizontal lines on an already horizontal house?
I just wanted to see how it looks on your drawings.
I see other houses, put just can't envision very well.
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Postby robbhouston » Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:50 pm

Scott,

I don't think your house is too horizontal to use horizontal slatted screens as way to add some dimension, maybe some color, and a bit of mystery to your entry. I recently bought a book, Builders' Homes For Better Living (Jones/Emmons 1957), that talks about combining horizontal and vertical lines via structure, materials and textures. Heres a scan of an illustration on that point...

http://0044f49.netsolhost.com/nashville ... z_vert.jpg

Horizontal lines are one of the qualities a lot mid-century-modern homes have that make them so striking. Whitney R. Smith used horizontal slats (lath screens) to enclose 2 opposite ends of the x-shaped plan for Case Study House 12 (1946)…

http://0044f49.netsolhost.com/nashville ... _model.jpg
http://0044f49.netsolhost.com/nashville ... orplan.jpg

Very cool! Had the place been built, it would made for some wonderful shadows and filtered Sunlight. I love that idea of filtered sun and semi-private spaces so much that I adopted it for my home-addition project I've been working on. Two lath type enclosures (one open above, the other with spaced cross members for filtered light) intersecting the house at the covered patio, which is what connects the addition to the house...

http://0044f49.netsolhost.com/nashville ... ew_top.jpg
http://0044f49.netsolhost.com/nashville ... n_west.jpg
http://0044f49.netsolhost.com/nashville ... rdseye.jpg

Here's another cool example of a horizontal screen used to create a private space for bedrooms that face the street (Case Study House by Thornton Abell 1948). Note the "lath house" on the floor plan (cool), and the street facing bedrooms have doors facing that private yard...

http://0044f49.netsolhost.com/nashville ... l_1948.jpg
http://tracepaper.files.wordpress.com/2 ... use-7b.jpg

I re-did your screen using 1"x4"s spaced at 2" apart…

http://0044f49.netsolhost.com/nashville ... ontal1.jpg
http://0044f49.netsolhost.com/nashville ... ontal2.jpg
http://0044f49.netsolhost.com/nashville ... ontal3.jpg

…but it could be done a whole variety of ways.

I think the combination of the backlit obscure glass (or plastic) panels combined with some wooden screening and landscaping might really make your entry way interesting without breaking the bank. Then again, you may not want to reinvent your entry way. They're all just ideas. Take 'em or leave 'em... :)

Good luck with whatever you do!

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Postby Scott NC » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:20 pm

Awesome man. That case study 12 and thornton abell home
make me want to have the fence go all the way to the driveway acros the yard, then lower the fence to where from the road all you see is the clerestory windows up top. The only issue is those two windows it would be semi-blocking are the kitchen sink on the right window and a built in desk on left. Then again, I wouldn't be missing much being that it's rarely used. I don't just sit at those windows and look out.
But it would block my white panels on the exterior of house. If I end up painting the fence white, that might be too much white. Hmm, I'll figure it out:)
I think i just convinced myself to run the fence all the way over. lol

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Postby Scott NC » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:34 pm

by the way. Is this the book?

wow, that's insane

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Postby Scott NC » Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:53 am

So this is a pathetic attempt in "paint", with no trees and plants, no boulders, just basic rocks and grass to see it a little better. Wood will be darker etc. :roll:

white rock, gray rock, pebble rock, circle grass.

Probably too much goin on, but I'll play it as I go along .lol

Start with fence and retaining wall, then move on to hardscape stuff

The whole yard will be at one level until retaining wall. Right now a slight slope towards road.
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Postby robbhouston » Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:24 pm

Scott,

Wow, that's a lot of fence across the front of your house!

You might need to consider what it is you're trying to do. Using (some) screening and landscaping to add a bit of dimension and mystery to your entryway is one thing. But, IMO, that much fencing suggests you need more outdoor private space. Is your backyard not very usable?

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Postby Scott NC » Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:23 pm

Does anyone know the most economical place to get
fiberglass or plastic white translucent panels from?
Here, he mentions a local sign shop? hmm.
http://www.grassrootsmodern.com/2010/01 ... e-details/

4x8's. I'm guessing I'll need about 4 or 5 sheets.
Hoping for no more than $40 or so a panel. Probably a long shot.
Or I'm sure I could get lucky at a habitat home warehouse, but that may take forever to find at the right time.
How thick is safe for the exterior fence pic?
Is there an option that uses these panels, but not necessarily for this use...ie office partitions being thrown out. Or greenhouse building supplies?


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