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Vine Street in Hollywood

Postby nichols » Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:30 pm

Soooo many changes in this historic neighborhood that I feel compelled to make note here. The LA Business Journal reports on several of them this week.

First off, the Millard Sheets Washington Mutual at the NE corner of Sunset & Vine is closed due to a "DWP fire" but there is plastic in the windows and dumpsters in the rear... Wha'hoppen?

Larry Bond of Sunset/Vine (Borders) fame just purchased 1417 and 1433 Cole Place for 50 condos. What's there? Staples? I can't remember...

Condo developer Palisades Development group has the parking lot between DEEP and AVALON (next to DanDee shoe repair) for a 75,000 sq. ft. mixed use building. The previous owner had it for 70 years!

The Equitable building at Hollywood/Vine is still becoming condos

The family behind the Pantages theatre (the Nederlanders) now have a deal to develop 7 acres of Hollywood Blvd. around the Pantages (on the boulevard between Argyle and Gower) for a $300 million condo/retail development with 1,000 units!! WOw!

Whew!

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Postby Nathan » Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:37 pm

Apparently it isn't enough that every square inch of LA with some semblance of green upon't is going to be concrete -- every square inch of concrete is going to be topped with monoliths of bizarre size.

On the other hand, LA county growth has slowed somewhat; it's below state average, in fact. The lesson learned by none, apparently, via the Hollywood Galaxy Six (only Ben and Jerrys in America to ever go out of business -- what was this, built on Indian burial ground?) will have to be absorbed after all this Vine street dust settles.

Where's the Army of the Twelve Monkeys when you need 'em, I ask ya.

Seriously, though, this demolition around the HS mosaic worries me. Granted, this is no NBC building, but it's wonderful and endangered and someday we'll have fewer Sheets murals than we have extant Stiles Clements buildings. Should Sheets' work be nominated in toto?

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Postby nichols » Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:09 pm

In case you're wondering who Millard Sheets is:
http://www.fairplex.com/fp/Foundations/ ... whowas.asp

and here is the mural:
http://www.lamurals.org/MuralFiles/Holl ... gsHwd.html

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Postby nichols » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:46 pm

Yeah, I've been thinking about this one for a long time. What's important - what do we fight for - or even comment on here?

If I were to rate the existing buildings, I would say that perhaps the most significant is the c. 1949 Hatton's restaurant, now a bar called Daddy's. A terrific example of the Late Moderne style which has had some of it's best examples wiped out in recent years.
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Here it is in the '60s barely visible to the far right -- next to the "LOANS" place... notice the Brown Derby to the extreme left (covered in Western Airlines signs) and the little Rent-a-Car shack that would go on to become The Juices Fountain.
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Of course, Bernard's Luggage at the north end of the site (formerly a bar called "The Office" and I believe once part of an auto service site is very important.... 20s Spanish thingy reminiscent of the long gone Brown Derby.... ImageThe Hollywood DMV is a former branch bank that has some character, but my heart belongs to "Daddy's" (the bar that is)
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Postby Lynxwiler » Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:50 am

Hollywood isn't interested in architecture or history when there's money involved (Insert derogatory Legacy Partners comment here).

I personally don't think there's any way to save these structures. I tried saving a larger Late Moderne building in the Miracle Mile and got nowhere. Daddy's Office is fantastic, but the time has not yet come for the underappreciated Late Moderne.

No one has mentioned signage yet, but there are some small and nearly invisible signs on that block that I'd like to see preserved. What are my chances at getting Legacy Partners to act selfless? It would be like asking the deaf, dumb, and blind to start a crossword puzzle.

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Postby Jess C » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:22 pm

Here is a pic of the proposed project:

Hollywood & Vine

Address: Southeast corner of Hollywood Blvd. and Vine St. adjacent to the Hollywood/Vine Metro Red Line station

Description: The Hollywood & Vine project, adjacent to the Hollywood/Vine Metro Red Line station, is a major catalytic project that will produce significant property tax increment, sales tax revenues, and numerous living-wage jobs. The project will redevelop a 4.6-acre site to include a four-star W Hotel, retail and restaurant space, a grocery store, 150 for-sale condominiums, and 350 rental units, of which 20 percent will be affordable units.

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Postby Lynxwiler » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:03 pm

Could be worse. Thank God Legacy Partners, Irvine isn't producing fake Art Deco designs for Hollywood.

By the way, I have spoken with several representatives from Legacy Partners, Irvine regarding some of the historic signage on the property. I'm hoping the historic signage can be moved to a more visible location and restored or, more likely, donated to an appropriate home (MONA perhaps). Let's keep our fingers crossed.

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Postby Lynxwiler » Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:48 pm

Bit of Old Hollywood Imperiled

L.A. agency votes to oust about 30 small firms to make way for a $400-million retail-residential project. Merchants protest.

By Bob Pool, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
March 3, 2006

With a loud thud, new Hollywood collided Thursday with old Hollywood at Tinseltown's most famous intersection: Hollywood and Vine.

Los Angeles officials cleared the way for a luxury hotel developer to seize buildings housing about 30 small businesses through eminent domain so a $400-million project with a W Hotel, condominium and apartment units, and glitzy shops and restaurants can be built on the southeast corner.

The condemnation proceedings, authorized by the Los Angeles Community Redevelopment Agency, set the stage for one of the most ambitious revitalization efforts in Hollywood.

But the action was loudly protested as heavy-handed and unfriendly by homeowners and merchants who said it was wrong to use public money and power to benefit a private developer.

The debate comes as Hollywood is in the midst of a major revival that has brought dozens of trendy nightclubs, restaurants and massive new shopping complexes such as the Hollywood & Highland Center, where the Academy Awards ceremony will take place Sunday.

Just a decade ago, the district was struggling with shuttered movie theaters, rising crime and a subway construction project that crumbled parts of the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

The development at Hollywood Boulevard and Vine Street would replace several buildings from the district's golden era that are home to a roster of only-in-Hollywood tenants — including billboard figure and sometime actress Angelyne.

As the agency's board of commissioners was voting 5 to 0 to adopt a "resolution of necessity" that will allow eminent domain proceedings to begin, one soon-to-be-ousted property owner erected a huge sign above his Vine Street shop denouncing the action.

Luggage store owner Robert Blue said his historic, 78-year-old building was designed by an architect who helped set the tone of Hollywood in its golden age — and who went on to win an Academy Award for his art design work on the classic Errol Flynn-Olivia de Havilland film "The Adventures of Robin Hood."

Architect Carl Jules Weyl won the 1938 Oscar for best art direction.

Before his studio career, however, he designed the Hollywood Brown Derby restaurant and the next-door Herman Building, which is the site of Blue's six-decade-old, family-owned Bernard Luggage store.

Blue's sign — visible Thursday afternoon to passersby on both Hollywood and Vine — resembles a movie poster.

"Reverse Robin Hood Pictures presents, 'Murder on Vine Street: Eminent Domain Kills Small Businesses,' " it reads. "This story tells it all: Greed, Corruption and Gridlock."

It lists as its "stars" the U.S. Supreme Court, Hollywood-area City Councilman Eric Garcetti, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, "the Community Redevelopment Agency as 'The Godfather' " and "the Little Rascals as 'the developers' ."

Blue, 46, who said he grew up working in his parents' luggage shop, complained that "those with the most political and economic clout" are coming out the winners in the Hollywood redevelopment derby.

"It's such a shock what the CRA did," he said after the vote. "After 60 years in business in Hollywood, you get three minutes to speak. For me, there's a lot of family feeling in here."

Blue's shop manager, Ziggy Kruse, told commissioners that this would be the second time she has been forced out of a job by a Hollywood eminent domain proceeding.

In 2002 she was working at the Hollywood Star Lanes bowling alley when it was seized by the Los Angeles Unified School District as a campus site. "I never dreamed lightning would strike me twice," Kruse said.

Other businesses that will be displaced include a nail-and-hair salon, a cocktail lounge, insurance office and a state Department of Motor Vehicles facility, along with Angelyne's business office.

The landmark Taft Building on the northwest edge of the site will remain.

"We'd support this project if it did not grind the little guy down and did not subsidize a private developer with public funds," said Robert P. Silverstein, a lawyer representing Blue and other business owners.

Longtime Hollywood community leader Chris Shabel said the old Herman Building, in particular, deserved to be saved.

"We have very few historic buildings left in Hollywood," she told commissioners. "It would be nice to have one on Vine Street."

Resident Carol Knapp complained that the city was "killing the little guy and offering up his corpse" for development. "It's corporate communism," she said.

David Scholnick, president of the city's Hollywood-Studio District Neighborhood Council, decried the loss of "our mom and pop businesses" while Hollywood Heritage leader Aaron Epstein asserted that merchants had survived riots, recession and Red Line subway construction only to have their property "snatched" by big builders.

But others supported eminent domain, which despite the flurry of new development in Hollywood has been used there only twice before by the redevelopment agency: at the Egyptian Theatre and for a housing project at Hollywood Boulevard and Western Avenue that replaced an earthquake-damaged structure.

Alison Becker, planning deputy for Garcetti, called the planned project "a terrific addition to Hollywood" that has been embraced by other city agencies such as the Planning Commission.

"Property owners weren't investing; the community was spiraling down," said Leron Gubler, president of the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce. He called the redevelopment agency's involvement "crucial and appropriate."

Statistics compiled by the Chamber of Commerce paint a vivid picture of Hollywood's resurgence as new nightclubs, retail centers, residential developments and office rehab projects have been launched.

The Cinerama Dome Entertainment Center with its upscale ArcLight Theaters is a $90-million venture. The Hollywood & Highland complex with its Academy Awards' Kodak Theatre was a $615-million development. The Sunset and Vine residential-retail project was valued at $120 million, according to Gubler's group.

The proposed Hollywood and Vine project — which will be partially built on Metropolitan Transportation Authority land above a Red Line subway station — will include 375 apartment units, the 300-room, four-star W Hotel, 150 luxury apartments and 61,000 square feet of retail and restaurant space.

J.J. Abraham, vice president of Legacy Partners, one of the principals in the development, pledged that the project would be a good one.

"We're not the big, bad developer coming in to squeeze out the little guy," the Irvine-based builder said.

Redevelopment agency commission Chairman William Jackson asked that the developers work with the soon-to-be-displaced stores to help keep them in business.

"We have to make an extra effort not to destroy something as we attempt to create something," Jackson said.

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I guess the only way

Postby modfan » Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:58 pm

you might see anything of historic Hollywood is to see it at Universal Studios in Orlando Florida. And even that is somewhat fictional.

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Postby Lynxwiler » Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:15 pm

True. I like Orlando's Disney-MGM Studios too. They've got a great faux-Hollywood with plenty of Stiles Clements and S. Charles Lee to make me happy.

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Postby nichols » Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:05 am

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Looks like Bernard Luggage won a reprieve and will be incorporated into the new W Hotel project.
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LOS ANGELES TIMES

Hollywood Luggage Shop Won't Have to Pack Its Bags
Owner wins his fight against the plan to raze his luggage store, so a massive development at Hollywood and Vine will be built around the 1928 landmark.

By Bob Pool, Times Staff Writer
September 28, 2006

Hollywood's luggage king refused to pack his bags and go when Los Angeles officials tried to seize his 60-year-old family business to make room for a high-end hotel development.

Shopkeeper Robert Blue fought back by blasting the city's use of eminent domain with a mocking billboard atop his Bernard Luggage store on Vine Street just south of Hollywood Boulevard.

Then he filed a lawsuit alleging a violation of his right to due process, and in the process became a symbol of what some residents considered Hollywood redevelopment run amok.

And on Wednesday the luggage man bagged a victory...

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me ... home-local

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Postby nichols » Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:09 pm

Juices...I mean "Juice" Fountain #-o
is relocating to Hollywood Blvd. near Ivar
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Postby ChrisLAXEncounter » Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:29 pm

It's not that bad.

The Pantages & the Frolic Room remain.

Hollywood & Vine could use some investment, in addition to the Hollywood & Vine Diner.

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Postby Lynxwiler » Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:15 pm

Here's the remains of Daddy's Bar on Vine, slated for demolition.

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Postby ChrisLAXEncounter » Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:46 pm

Although I continue to think that the Hollywood investment and resulting regintrification is a good thing, I do wonder if the historic places go by the wayside, will Hollywood lose its connection to "Hollywood" of yore?

However, may be this concern is misplaced.
Hollywood still has the Pantages and the Frolic Room, and the El Capitan is nicely framed by the Hollywood & Highland development.

The Cinerama Dome, too, remains, albeit in an altered state.

Also, many of the historic buildings remain, so maybe it is just as well.

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Postby nichols » Mon May 14, 2007 10:42 am

From the Juices Fountain:
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WE ARE OPEN!

The Juices Fountain juiced Hollywood for over 33 years at its location at 1616 N. Vine Street. We made it through the riots, the '96 earthquake and countless other bumps along the road. We thought this eminent domain thing would knock us out for good, but after three decades not even the city could put us out of business.

Our new home is at:

6332 Hollywood Blvd.
Hollywood, California 90028
(323) 464-8986

M-F 8am to 6pm
Sat and Sun 10am-5pm

We are right around the corner from our old address and just a few paces west of Vine on Hollywood Blvd.

Come and visit us. We still make the same fine fresh juices, smoothies, sandwiches, salads and carrot cake.

Thank you for your patronage.

The Juices Fountain Family.

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Postby nichols » Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:58 pm

...and both sides of Hollywood and Argyle become:

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Postby nichols » Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:19 pm

Work continues on the W Hotel in Hollywood - here's the Bernard Luggage building (or what's left of it)
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Postby surffnutt3000 » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:44 am

Chris, what's the latest with Bernard Luggage? Most of the stories I've found date back to 2006, when it was announced the store would be incorporated into the new complex. They make note that the facade will be restored, but not that it'll be the only part of the store that remains. Yet, that's clearly the case.

Is a new building to house the business being built in the space behind the facade?

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Postby nichols » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:47 pm

well, I've heard that Mr. Blue will not be operating a luggage store at that location, but can't confirm what the new shop will be. The new hotel building goes right up to that facade, so I'm sure they'll connect and whatever the new space is will be carved from there.. Sorry, don't know much about this and the person I would have called (Nudelman) is no longer with us.. I'll post when I hear something concrete.

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Postby Lynxwiler » Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:24 am

That's what I call façodomy.

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Postby nichols » Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:46 am

Another "before" image:
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