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Meeting In Downey for The Broiler

Postby Cyclone Kevin » Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:21 pm

Hope to see ya all there, This is the finish line, The city needs to see the supporyt like they did Jan 9th, This is a big investment for all other than you know who? Please bring a Bob's item if ya round one up or just yourself and we'll show the city that all of our efforts mean well for the betterment of their community.
7:30pm Downey City Council Chambers
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Postby retrocool » Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:44 pm

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to thank MODCOM for all their support at last night city council meeting.

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Downey Patriot Report

Postby retrocool » Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:17 pm

By Eric Pierce, City Editor


DOWNEY –– – The prospect of a Bob’s Big Boy restaurant taking over Johnie’s Broiler is seemingly getting closer to reality.

Johnie’s Broiler property owner Christos Smyrniotis said today that an agreement has been reached in principle for Bob’s to take over Johnie’s, restoring the diner with its 1950’s Googie architecture and bustling carhops.

The two sides are now waiting for the historical architectural firm of Chattel Architecture, Planning and Preservation, hired by the city to survey the property two weeks ago, to present its findings, Smyrniotis said.

“So far so good. We have agreed in principle and now we’re waiting for the report to come back,â€￾ Smyrniotis said. “It appears to me that [Bob’s Big Boy] is very excited. It’s only a matter of time.â€￾

John Perfitt, Economic Development Director for the city of Downey, confirmed that an agreement was reached in principle last Friday, but was careful to stress that both sides were still combing over the particulars of a long-term lease agreement.

“I would use the metaphor that we’re a traffic cop,â€￾ Perfitt said in regards to the city’s role in the negotiations. “But we’re trying to facilitate Bob’s moving in because it’s what everybody wants.â€￾
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Postby nichols » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:51 am

The Wave

Downey praised for efforts to save Johnieís Broiler

People who support the preservation of the former Johnieís Broiler restaurant in Downey display signs at the Downey City Council meeting last week.
By ARNOLD ADLER, Staff Writer 06.MAR.08
DOWNEY ó After listening to an hour of harsh criticism from residents Feb. 12, the City Council was showered with praise Feb. 28 for their efforts to have the Big Boy chain rebuild and operate the former Johnieís Broiler.

Several dozen supporters of the 1960s-style eatery at 7447 Firestone Blvd. spoke during the public comment portion of the agenda, supporting the cityís efforts and urging Johnieís owner Christos Smyrniotis to sell the site to the Big Boy chain.

They were energized by the announcement Feb. 12 by Gilbert Levas, deputy city manager for community development, that negotiations are under way.

ìOur goal is to rebuild [the restaurant] as it was before,î Levas said Feb. 12, adding that the entire site is larger than needed for the restaurant, but plans are to lease part of the property to an incoming Nissan dealership for vehicle storage.

Supporters of the restaurant carried signs reading ìRebuild it and they will come,î ìChristos, just say yes,î ìHarveyís and Johnieís equal Bobísî and ìFat Boys Rock.î

ìI experienced a true moment of happiness,î said Downey resident and Johnieís advocate Analisa Ridenour about efforts to reopen a restaurant on the site. ìWe look to [the City Council] for leadership to bring [Big Boy)] here. We applaud your efforts.î

More than half of the building that housed the restaurant was illegally demolished Jan. 7, 2007. A former tenant of the site, Ardas Yanik, who operated a used car dealership there and sought to build a shopping center, was found guilty of illegal demolition last October.

The lease reverted back to Smyrniotis, a Downey resident, who has pledged to cooperate with restoration efforts by the city.

Several people used the Johnieís experience to emphasize the need for an historic preservation ordinance to control the demolition of historic buildings.

ìThis incident could start the reincarnation of the whole area,î resident George Redfox said. ìWe need a historic preservation law. Without such a law landmark buildings could go. We have a lot of things worth preserving,î

Another Downey resident, Kathleen Perez, agreed.

ìWe must adopt an ordinance before bulldozers destroy Downeyís past. We believe in saving history and in miracles,î she said. - Photo by Arnold Adler

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Postby Adriene » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:16 am

Stand by, everyone . . . we should have word by Friday confirming that the
lease between Bob's and Christos has been signed!!

This is a huge moment for all of us who have been doing everything we can to keep Johnie's standing long enough for it to be rescued!!

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Postby Cyclone Kevin » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:13 pm

Standing by with the bottle Champagne, so get ready to have your glasses ready as this is sure to be a history making event!

We have to thank the city of Downey for putting this deal together and not allowing the site to be dozed anymore that it had been.

This is a first that I know of that a city got behind the people and worked with them to right a wrong that had been perpetrated so maliciously.

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Postby retrocool » Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:59 pm

Any official word yet?????
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Postby Adriene » Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:22 pm

We should know by Wednesday -- the City of Downey will be making the official announcement.

The Broiler's 50th anniversary is coming up in just a few weeks, Kevin and Burny are working on a flyer for the big celebration!

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Postby Adriene » Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:08 pm

We're still waiting on the lease signing, but everything's looking good so far.

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Postby Adriene » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:48 am

THIS IS THE MOMENT WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING & WORKING FOR!!!!!!!

http://www2.presstelegram.com/news/ci_8857848

Bob's Big Boy to replace Johnie's
By Samantha Gonzaga, Staff Writer
Article Launched: 04/08/2008 09:38:41 PM PDT

DOWNEY - Fifteen months after an illegal demolition, a year-long building Moratorium and well- attended classic-car cruises in its honor, Johnie's Broiler is being resurrected as a Bob's Big Boy.

Torrance Bob's Big Boy owner Jim Louder confirmed that there is a long-term lease agreement between he and Johnie's owner Christos "Johnie" Smyrniotis.

"We're moving ahead with our plans," Louder said. "And we have a lot of work to do to get to this construction stage and whatnot, but I'm hoping to be able to start with the demolition fairly soon."

Johnie's Broiler, 7447 Firestone Blvd., was illegally bulldozed in January 2007 by Smyrniotis' lessee, Ardas Yanik. Yanik, who has since apologized for the razing, was subleasing to a used car dealership.

Since its demolition, local groups such as Friends of Johnie's and Coalition to Rebuild Harvey's organized cruises in hopes of attracting investors willing to rebuild the Googie-style drive-through.

The site was originally a Harvey's Broiler owned by Harvey Ortner, who opened it in 1958. It was bought by Smyrniotis in 1966 and renamed Johnie's. At the height of its popularity and business, Johnie's was a major spot for hot-rodders and car enthusiasts, with a facility that accommodated up to 350 parked vehicles and offered car service for 98.

In December, city leaders decided not to extend the site's development moratorium. Instead, an agreement was drawn between the city and Smyrniotis, stating that any future developments at the site would be overseen by the city.

It also made Smyrniotis responsible for reimbursing the city's $25,000 cost of hiring a historic preservation consultant to evaluate and determine which of Johnie's remaining architectural elements are still salvageable. Among the survivors was the drive-through's famous "Fat Boy" sign.

Adriene Biondo - whose nonprofit organization has consulted with the city - considered news of the new lease agreement in a different light.

"I feel like (Louder)'s making history with these first steps to reconstruct the Broiler," she said.

Biondo praised city officials for putting a moratorium on the 90,000- square-foot site. Although Downey doesn't have a historic preservation ordinance in place, the City Council's decision to respond to community concerns contributed to conservation efforts, she said.

"It's very rare for a city to do that," Biondo said of the moratorium and the city's involvement in Johnie's post-demolition affairs. "If they hadn't left the building alone, we wouldn't be able to do that (salvage architectural pieces)."

Downey Deputy City Manager Gilbert Livas said the next step for Johnie's would be a clean-up of the site, an undertaking that falls under Louder's financial responsibility.

The appropriate permits have yet to be pulled, he said.

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Postby Adriene » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:53 am

THIS IS THE MOMENT WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING & WORKING FOR!!!!!!!

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/news/ci_8858810

http://www2.presstelegram.com/news/ci_8857848

Johnie's Broiler to be Rebranded
By Samantha Gonzaga, Staff Writer
Article Launched: 04/08/2008 09:38:41 PM PDT

DOWNEY - Fifteen months after an illegal demolition, a year-long building Moratorium and well- attended classic-car cruises in its honor, Johnie's Broiler is being resurrected as a Bob's Big Boy.

Torrance Bob's Big Boy owner Jim Louder confirmed that there is a long-term lease agreement between he and Johnie's owner Christos "Johnie" Smyrniotis.

"We're moving ahead with our plans," Louder said. "And we have a lot of work to do to get to this construction stage and whatnot, but I'm hoping to be able to start with the demolition fairly soon."

Johnie's Broiler, 7447 Firestone Blvd., was illegally bulldozed in January 2007 by Smyrniotis' lessee, Ardas Yanik. Yanik, who has since apologized for the razing, was subleasing to a used car dealership.

Since its demolition, local groups such as Friends of Johnie's and Coalition to Rebuild Harvey's organized cruises in hopes of attracting investors willing to rebuild the Googie-style drive-through.

The site was originally a Harvey's Broiler owned by Harvey Ortner, who opened it in 1958. It was bought by Smyrniotis in 1966 and renamed Johnie's. At the height of its popularity and business, Johnie's was a major spot for hot-rodders and car enthusiasts, with a facility that accommodated up to 350 parked vehicles and offered car service for 98.

In December, city leaders decided not to extend the site's development moratorium. Instead, an agreement was drawn between the city and Smyrniotis, stating that any future developments at the site would be overseen by the city.

It also made Smyrniotis responsible for reimbursing the city's $25,000 cost of hiring a historic preservation consultant to evaluate and determine which of Johnie's remaining architectural elements are still salvageable. Among the survivors was the drive-through's famous "Fat Boy" sign.

Adriene Biondo - whose nonprofit organization has consulted with the city - considered news of the new lease agreement in a different light.

"I feel like (Louder)'s making history with these first steps to reconstruct the Broiler," she said.

Biondo praised city officials for putting a moratorium on the 90,000- square-foot site. Although Downey doesn't have a historic preservation ordinance in place, the City Council's decision to respond to community concerns contributed to conservation efforts, she said.

"It's very rare for a city to do that," Biondo said of the moratorium and the city's involvement in Johnie's post-demolition affairs. "If they hadn't left the building alone, we wouldn't be able to do that (salvage architectural pieces)."

Downey Deputy City Manager Gilbert Livas said the next step for Johnie's would be a clean-up of the site, an undertaking that falls under Louder's financial responsibility.

The appropriate permits have yet to be pulled, he said.

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Postby Adriene » Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:27 pm

FLYER TO BE POSTED SOON, SEE
http://www.roadsidepeek.com/


PLEASE JOIN US THIS SAT, APR. 19TH

TO CELEBRATE THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF
HARVEY'S BROILER
AND
WELCOME BOB'S BIG BOY TO TOWN!

CRUISE ON OVER TO THE BROILER BETWEEN NOON - 6PM

LOCATION: 7447 E. FIRESTONE BLVD., DOWNEY

TAKE A FEW PIX...MAYBE EVEN WITH BOB HIMSELF!

THEN JOIN US AFTERWARDS AT

THE NORDIC FOX RESTAURANT
10924 PARAMOUNT BLVD.
DOWNEY

ALL CARS ARE WELCOME!

SO BRING YOUR BEAT-UP HONDA ACCORD, YOUR UNCLE'S TOYOTA CAMRY, VINTAGE RIDE, HOT ROD, STREET ROD, RAT ROD,
LEAD SLED OR CUSTOM,

JUST COME OUT AND CELEBRATE WITH US!!!!!!!

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Postby nichols » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:43 pm

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Postby Adriene » Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:00 pm

See you all tomorrow!!

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Photos from today cruise

Postby retrocool » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:12 pm

Hi everyone,

Here are some photos of cruise complements of Lomara. It was a blast!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lomara/

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Postby Vavala » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:11 pm

Los Angeles Conservancy update on Johnie's Broiler:
http://www.laconservancy.org/issues/issues_johnies.php4

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(((Site Plan))) Bob's Big Boy/Harvey's Broiler Downey, Calif

Postby retrocool » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:49 pm

Hi everyone,

I have posted a site plan drawings for the new Bob's Big Boy in Downey on flicker.com. Check them out.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_downey ... 452827972/

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website updated

Postby khummer » Sat May 03, 2008 8:02 pm

www.johniesbroiler.net

Learn more about the latest Johnies news and feel free to share. Designed by a fan who never ate at Johnies, but he can't wait to go to Bob's!

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Photos from the dedication

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Postby nichols » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:14 pm

Say, check out these cool pictures of the Broiler from the '80s at the Mooneyes site.
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http://www.mooneyesusa.com/news/021/021.htm


and then go to their party on Saturday!
http://www.lottaliving.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=12556

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Postby nichols » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:31 pm

Whoa! an original menu from the Broiler over on the HAMB message board!!

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/show ... 78&page=33

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Postby nichols » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:41 pm

Our esteemed ModCom chair Adriene and I were talking about the light fixtures at the original Harvey's Broiler. Can anyone identify these? They appear to be three white glass shades hung on a single fixture. I've seen similar lamps described as "Danish Modern Pendant."
Is anybody replicating a ceiling fixture like this?
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Here are a few vintage pieces that sort of come close
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Postby moderns-r-us » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:15 pm

I would look at a vintage Lightolier catalog first.
"Better Living Through Modernism"

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Postby nichols » Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:21 am

I was looking for someone who is making them now. Who is doing repro glass pendants?

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Postby nichols » Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:12 pm

LONG BEACH PRESS TELEGRAM

New future for Johnie's

By Samantha Gonzaga, Staff Writer
Article Launched: 08/11/2008 10:56:24 PM PDT

DOWNEY - City leaders tonight will consider entering an agreement with the new tenant of the former Johnie's Broiler site.

This "Owner Participation Agreement" with Torrance Bob's Big Boy franchise owner Jim Louder would require the city to provide $900,000 to be spent on a sublease and a 10-year job development program, allowing city leaders to take part in the site's rehabilitation, reconstruction and preservation efforts...

http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_10172183

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Postby nichols » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:11 pm

How about this one from Satellite Modern? Anybody like this one?

http://www.satellitemodern.com/fixshowC ... hf&newC122[15SHADE_TAKES_3]=094SO

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Postby Adriene » Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:20 pm

[copying this over from the Bob's thread]

Amazingly, after all it's been through, the Broiler will live again! So many people didn't believe in us, but here we are.

Of course this wouldn't be happening without Jim. And he's working hard to get it right. Before we know it, we'll be cruising the Broiler again and attending a spectacular grand opening!

Sincere thanks to CycloneKevin for stepping up to help me in the days following the demolition, then taking on the responsibility for leading the Coalition to Rebuild the Broiler, attending Superior Court hearings, etc., etc. Kevin's also kept an important thread on the Jalopy Journal/HAMB going continuously since the CBS breaking news broadcast.

Check it out, it just reached a milestone 50,186 views!

Harvey's Broiler Razed Illegally!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/show ... p?t=153678

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Postby HappyBunny » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:54 am

You guys worked so hard to save a place you cared about--you should inspire many who also try to save buildings and other places from the wrecking ball. You show that even after the wrecking ball has swung, it is not too late!

I cant wait to go have lunch at the Broiler! I've never been (it was closed after I moved to CA) but it will surely be a great experience!

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Postby Adriene » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:36 pm

Thanks for the nice words, HappyBunny. I sure hope we'll inspire others, there's so much that can be done if people are passionate and committed. See you at the Broiler!

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Postby srk1941 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:11 am

Chris, that three pendant light fixture is as close as you're going to find in a reproduction, I've bought a lamp from Rejuvenation before (the company that is running this Satellite site) and the quality is very good. I'm sure they'll be able to tailor the different pendant heights to match whatever was there originally. I like it!
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