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Postby hoodlam » Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:53 am

sure did, it has been interesting, to say the least, the choices made by previous owners.

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Postby moderns-r-us » Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:48 am

Did you end up with any "issues" that are already on our fateful 100 list?

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Postby hoodlam » Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:52 am

oh yeah

vinyl siding over redwood siding
bad light fixtures
convert garage in to living space

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Postby bluecherub » Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:28 pm

White plastic lattace screens!

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Postby bluecherub » Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:32 pm

Shutters!...

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Postby SDR » Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:09 pm

See -- just when you think you've thought of every last architectural insult !

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Postby moderns-r-us » Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:45 am

I think that this topic has seen more views than any other in the residential category, possibly more views than any topic on the board other than the new members post.

It seems that this topic struck a nerve that was very ready to fire!

Here is one I have seen several times lately:

Screwing down additional insulation onto your t&g wood roof deck with screws that are too long and pierce through to the inside.

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Postby SDR » Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:30 pm

"I laugh in the face of danger! Then I hide until it goes away." Bender

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Postby Joe » Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:29 pm

I think tiki is a little defensive. dude, take a shower. so you live in your garage. so what. nobody is going to hold you up as an example of someone who screwed up a house.

In most logical cases, anywhere in america, a garage or carport is a good idea. sheltering a vehicle is a good idea, especially from the UV rays, dust, and crime you have in SoCal. Also, not everyone drives a car (yes, really). There's no way I would park my scooters in the driveway all night. One of the first things I did when undoing the crimes against humanity committed against my house by previous owners was converting my 11x30' narrow, senseless "family room" back to what the architect originally designed: a garage. Yes, I down sized over 300 sqft, which made perfect sense. many of the garage conversions I see are laughable.

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Postby jva » Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:40 pm

I am totally guilty of

109. Hanging towels up in place of curtains (just in the bathroom, and it's a brand-new little cloth towel that I swear I will replace with something better, I just bought some beautiful Marimekko fabric, and I am exploring ideas)

117. less than thoughtful placement of the ac unit (I was a very naive first-time homeowner and didn't know what an AC unit looked like, and our front yard had no curb appeal anyway, and I am going to screen it)

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Postby tikiyaki » Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:48 am

Yes, I was absent for a bit, tho' I did check in periodically, I just didn't post anything. I've been wrestling with my new G5 and Logic Audio, which has been a major stress-out. I was here, just not saying much.

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Postby Chimay » Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:46 am

Also still present, and appreciate the votes of confidence for my 'screwed up' MCM :)

Glad to hear Tiki's still with us.

On the garage topic, I'm surprised that my neighbor, Marty (PacificaModern), has not chimed in yet. We have had this discussion a few times re: our own personal garages. Mine is too cluttered with construction materials and boxes still to put more than one car in it. So I leave one of them in the driveway. It's not as aesthetic, granted, but I don't care that much. PM does, though!

We recently saw a great little MCM house in the University City development of San Diego that was just redone with a garage conversion to a family room. The garage was turned 90 degrees to from the street to form an L shape, just like my garage and Tiki's. This normally means that the entire front yard area is taken up by the driveway, and the cars have to make a turn in the front yard in order to access the garage. But in this case, the door was removed, and in its place were redwood posts spaced at the same intervals as the beams. Between each post were glass doors that opened up to a little courtyard area. The driveway was removed and replaced by two sets of gravel strips, separated by plants and trees - one for each car. So now, the cars just go straight in from the street, and park outside. It's hard to explain, but I'll take a picture or two and post them here. I thought it was a great solution, and loved the idea.
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Postby moderns-r-us » Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:09 am

Chimay:

Just for the record the marble and granite are two more of the twelve plus items I think could go either way.

I think most of us are thrilled with what you have done for your house.

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Postby SDR » Fri Sep 09, 2005 6:27 pm

"I laugh in the face of danger! Then I hide until it goes away." Bender

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Postby Chimay » Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:55 pm

As promised, here are a couple of pics of that house nearby with the garage conversion. We spoke to the owners last week, but I don't know them. The architect was Catherine Herbst, who's a professor at the Woodbury School of Architecture here in San Diego. I think they did a great job, even if this does mean that the cars are now without a garage. This is the in the University City neighborhood, in an area surrounded by P&Ks.

But I'm not sure that this is a P&K, actually, because the homes in the immediate neighborhood are not. It's the most modern model of the development, though, and the post & beam structure, cement block, and tall clerestories are all original to the house. Oddly enough, the garage has the best clerestories and most light, and is one of the best rooms in the house. So it makes sense to convert it to an extra room.

This is the garage. Only thing new added here (aside from new paint) is that new cement block wall you see in front.
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View of the garage and house from the other side. Redwood posts and glass are where the garage door used to be. Cement from the original driveway has been broken up and recycled to form a patio area in front of the glass curtain wall. Bamboo planted there will form a privacy barrier to the street. Like the effect, but I probably would have put up mistlite screens like in my own house, but to each his own.

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Close up of the same. Note the pea gravel driveway strips for each car, separated by row of trees to provide a garden feel instead of a slab of concrete (although bird droppings on the cars may be a problem!):
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Postby PacificaModern » Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:49 pm

Well, I haven't checked in on this thread yet, mostly because I kind of didn't like the premise for it. I suppose that as a person who has made some pretty significant changes to his house, perhaps I am a bit sensitive to all of this! It just seems like there is too much chance to alienate somebody with this line. I know that it's really just kind of a joke but...after all, Chimay's house is so much cooler now than it ever could have been if simply restored to its "original, as-built" state. For instance many of the fixtures and hardware on the original house were patently junk! Why live with that just to "preserve" the original nature of the home? Ours were tract houses. Granted, they were well designed (in my opinion) but tract houses none the less. I don't think that the architects of the MCM era would use all of those same fixtures and hardware now, given what is available! We all tend to think of ourselves as the arbiters of good taste and appropriateness, however, I think taste can be a subjective, transitory concept. Which brings me to my next subject..My roll-up sectional garage door. Many would say and have said that the sectional is inappropriate for a MCM style house. While I agree, it isn't what would have been installed in that era, I don't think that having one today in any way compromises the house. For us, we replaced our T-111 tilt-up for many reasons, not the least of which was that we have a VERY short driveway, and when actuated, the tilt-up swung out into the space over the driveway preventing us from pulling completely off the street until it had swung up. A matter of simple convenience, solved with a more appropriate device, in my mind. There are many situations like this that arise with a house. Let's face it, sometimes there IS a better mousetrap! <<climbs down off soapbox>>


Now, regarding my penchant for garages. I LIKE parking my cars in my garage. it looks neat, they are less likely to be broken into, and the salty sea air we have here won't be constantly crusting our vehicles at night. It just seems to me that a neighborhood without cars left out interminably in each and every driveway looks nicer! But that's just me. Anyhow, I do really like the house that Chimay just posted pictures of, he has done a wonderful job of making that house work for him. (even though he has to leave his cars outside!!)

<donning flamesuit> Let the punishment begin...

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Postby SDR » Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:56 pm

Aw, foo -- I agree with everything you said. [puts down mace and takes off suit of armor]

Really, I don't know when the first sectional roll-up ("overhead") garage door was installed -- but I have definitely seen flat-panel ("plain vanilla") sectionals on modern houses of all types. (The frame-and-recessed panel overhead belongs in ranch-house suburbia, however.) And the practicality you mentioned is more than enough reason to adopt this door in tight quarters, in any event.

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Postby ducatipaso » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:25 pm

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Postby Chimay » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:33 pm

no comment necessary, indeed... ouch.
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